Siboo
07-27 04:22 PM
Do this - Hire a homeless person, give him a VOIP phone with unlimited calling minutes, and ask him to call USCIS every second of his life asking for your recipt. Some day you will get the good news. If you hire 10 homeless and give all of them this job then you might qualify for "investor green card"!!
Guys....please say....well said (pat on my own back)
Well Said Kumar, Keep it up :mad: :mad:
Guys....please say....well said (pat on my own back)
Well Said Kumar, Keep it up :mad: :mad:
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honest123
05-12 02:12 AM
Personally I do think if DREAM ACT is passed, it will be easier to voice another bill to be passed to allow legal working immigrants (EB-1, 2, 3) to get green cards. I said this based on logical reason----people from DREAM ACT are illegal immigrants, so if DREAM ACT is passed, illegals will be turned into legal immigrants. So by logical reasons, legal working immigrants gain legal entry to US for jobs or for schools before, they should get green cards by logical and reasoning approach because they have paid taxes and expensive international tuition fees for years to help the US economy before.
Also, since NOT all EB legal working immigrants have US advanced degrees in Science & Medicine, therefore, similarly by logical and reasoning approach, any US advanced degrees in Science & Medicine graduates should have a chance or path to get green cards or to start up companies in US to help the US economy better. More legal immigrants buy houses and set up companies in US, more jobs created and more prosperous the US economy will be
Also, since NOT all EB legal working immigrants have US advanced degrees in Science & Medicine, therefore, similarly by logical and reasoning approach, any US advanced degrees in Science & Medicine graduates should have a chance or path to get green cards or to start up companies in US to help the US economy better. More legal immigrants buy houses and set up companies in US, more jobs created and more prosperous the US economy will be
bikram_das_in
07-13 01:58 PM
Congrats for you phenomenal journey. Appreciate your contribution and continued effort for IV. Thank you.
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abhidos37
08-22 12:07 PM
The date was current from July 1 with my PD Aug 2005. I have my 140 approved already.
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mali03
04-01 08:15 PM
Sent both faxes.
ragz4u
02-20 10:16 PM
These are the posts by the user hadron:
For anyone intending to 'vote with their wallet', please keep the following in mind:
- Only US citizens are allowed to contribute to political campaigns (it is even illegal to give money to a citizen friend and have him contribute as a straw-man)
- there are regulations regarding political action committees (PAC) controlled by 'agents of a foreign power'
We are well aware of this and WILL not be contributing to any political campaign. And in any case, where does contributing to political campaign come in the picture? We are just trying to get ourselves heard! Is that illegal in this 'free' country too?
While I appreciate the enthusiasm of the folks setting up IV.com (and I have no reason to doubt the sincerity and honesty of their efforts), I don't see a whole lot on the groups website dealing with the legal aspects noted above.
And then when I posted:
A lot of foreign governments and entities legally employ lobbyists in Washington. They are merely getting your voice heard by the people's representatives!
I am not a US Civics expert, but neither can be everybody else here!
hadron, just because somebody is Board-certified in one field of Medicine does not make them experts in everything else!
Please expound your expert views on how to win this battle, and we will follow you if that is the better way! Otherwise, please remember that those who forget the lessons of history (i.e. S 1932 defeat) will have to see them repeated!
This was what he posted:
Correct, and they are very careful to be registered with the secretary of state as a PAC or public interest lobbying organization. As you point out I am certainly not an expert on the law in this area, but before you start collecting a lot of money, make sure you have competent advice from someone who is (I looked into registering an immigration related PAC a year ago, after realizing the red-tape and political minefields involved I decided not to do so).
We are again beating around the bush here. As I have mentioned earlier, we are registering ourselves as a 501C4 org and are not a Political Action Committee from any angle. Hence the red-tape etc that hadron is talking about is not applicable here at all
Quote:
Please expound your expert views on how to win this battle, and we will follow you if that is the better way!
I actually don't know how to do that.
The reality is, in washington there are two things that open the door of a lawmakers office to a lobbyist:
- a check from the PAC aligned with his cause
- evidence that he represents measurable share of voting citizens in the home district of the representative or senator
And do you see the problem here?
You guys can't legally contribute to political campaigns and you don't represent voting citizens. So, having a lobbyist might be a first step, but it doesn't mean that your cause will be heard.
Hadron seems to have a very myopic view for everything. Anything and everything for him leads to a political contributions. How about trying the old fashioned way of making the lawmakers aware of the situation of legal immigrants. I don't know whether he has ever seen a reply to a fax from any senator/rep, but all of these misconstrue our request as being either a) A request to increase H1b quota or b) Give amnesty to illegal immigrants. The fact of the matter is the lawmakers do NOT know about our plight. If you read another post in this forum by the CA team that visited Sen. Dianne Feinstein's office, it came out very loud and clear! They had no clue about our plight. This coming from a senator who handles all the high tech firms in Silicon Valley with thousands of legal alien constituents! Imagine how much a senator from a state with no techie firms (like say South Dakota/Wyoming etc) know about us? Nothing, Nada, Zilch....but their vote is worth as much as any other senator.....so the primary aim for us as an org is to make every lawmaker realize our plight and influnce their decisions
Our main ally in the immigration arena is the US chamber of commerce. They are spending considerable money on advocating for employment based immigration reform (their main thrust however is getting access to unskilled workers, either through a guest worker program or through legalization. in a secondary way they are interested in higher H1b quotas to get access to cheap professionals, fixing retrogression is not very high on their agenda). Have you talked to other organizations classically on our side yet ?
What makes Hadron think that what he believes (that US chamber of commerce is our main ally) is gospel? In case he does not know, there are many other orgs that have a similar agenda. We have made significant progress in establishing relations with many of these orgs. Unfortunately, we cannot reveal everything here. There is more to it than meets the eye! Thats where QGA is helping us immensely
Quote:
Otherwise, please remember that those who forget the lessons of history (i.e. S 1932 defeat) will have to see them repeated!
Please, save me the melodramatics.
Immigration bills get introduced by the dozen every year, most of them don't even make it into committee (but every time one gets introduced, people here on this board get all excited that finally 'relief is here'.) Even if a coalition of influential senators picks up the issue, there is no guarantee that it will go anywhere.
True, but how often do you see rallies across the country either pro or anti immigrants? How often do you hear about immigration being a hot issue and being discussed on CNN/Fox everyday? How often does the President address it in his State of the Union address? The fact of the matter is that this issue is really hot right now. Do not forget that this is an election year. A lot of the reps hoping to get reelected from border states like TX.AZ etc had promised their constituents that they will tackle immigration reforms. If they do nothing, they will face the wrath!
If there was ever a chance of an immigration bill passing, it is now. If that does not happen, forget about any chance of any immigration related stuff happening in the next 5 years. The question we need to ask ourselves right now is, 'Am I going to TRY to do something this time or should I try it after 5 years'. I know my answer is NOW. But if you want to be pessimistic and think that no bill might get passed, you are in the wrong place. You are better off visiting murthy.com and hope that she announces rapid movement of dates. the primary reason we are all converging here is because we believe that something will happen to the immigration bill and we want to make sure we are not forgotten
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This is last post:
I am not angry at anyone, and I don't think that any of my posts can be misconstrued to convey that impression.
I think it is a good idea to start (another) lobbying organization for immigrant rights as the existing ones have a interests very different from us. All the latino groups are only interested in family immigration and legalization of illegals, employment based immigration is only a little blip on their radar screen. Industry on the other hand has their own agenda, again not one coinciding with our issues.
I just think that some of the people involved in IV.com are taking step2 before they have taken step1. They have a nice website (no big suprise with a project run by IT professionals) and are already soliciting contributions, but some aspects of it make me wonder about the level of professionalism involved.
Just to clarify, we are all people with daily jobs other than Immigration Voice. This is a volunteer organization. Do not expect a macromedia flash welcome screen.
So as apparently some of the founders of this organization are present on this board, I would like the following questions answered:
- what is the legal form of your non-profit organization ?
Its on our home page, but just in case, we have applied for 501 C4 status
- is this entity registered in any state, if yes in which ?
Again, the address is listed on the web site.....but since you did not bother to check it, it is NJ
- who is registered as the owner of the organizations bank account ?
It is owned by Immigration Voice. Remember, this is a NON Profit organization. It cannot be 'owned' by a person. Again this is on the web site..
- what is the structure of the organization ? Do you have dues paying members, is there a board of directors, trustees ??
Yes....if you know about 501 C4 orgs, they all NEED to have an org structure and there are officers and a board of trustees
- who are the officers of the organization ?
Everything is in place. 501 C4 cannot be registered without that.
For anyone intending to 'vote with their wallet', please keep the following in mind:
- Only US citizens are allowed to contribute to political campaigns (it is even illegal to give money to a citizen friend and have him contribute as a straw-man)
- there are regulations regarding political action committees (PAC) controlled by 'agents of a foreign power'
We are well aware of this and WILL not be contributing to any political campaign. And in any case, where does contributing to political campaign come in the picture? We are just trying to get ourselves heard! Is that illegal in this 'free' country too?
While I appreciate the enthusiasm of the folks setting up IV.com (and I have no reason to doubt the sincerity and honesty of their efforts), I don't see a whole lot on the groups website dealing with the legal aspects noted above.
And then when I posted:
A lot of foreign governments and entities legally employ lobbyists in Washington. They are merely getting your voice heard by the people's representatives!
I am not a US Civics expert, but neither can be everybody else here!
hadron, just because somebody is Board-certified in one field of Medicine does not make them experts in everything else!
Please expound your expert views on how to win this battle, and we will follow you if that is the better way! Otherwise, please remember that those who forget the lessons of history (i.e. S 1932 defeat) will have to see them repeated!
This was what he posted:
Correct, and they are very careful to be registered with the secretary of state as a PAC or public interest lobbying organization. As you point out I am certainly not an expert on the law in this area, but before you start collecting a lot of money, make sure you have competent advice from someone who is (I looked into registering an immigration related PAC a year ago, after realizing the red-tape and political minefields involved I decided not to do so).
We are again beating around the bush here. As I have mentioned earlier, we are registering ourselves as a 501C4 org and are not a Political Action Committee from any angle. Hence the red-tape etc that hadron is talking about is not applicable here at all
Quote:
Please expound your expert views on how to win this battle, and we will follow you if that is the better way!
I actually don't know how to do that.
The reality is, in washington there are two things that open the door of a lawmakers office to a lobbyist:
- a check from the PAC aligned with his cause
- evidence that he represents measurable share of voting citizens in the home district of the representative or senator
And do you see the problem here?
You guys can't legally contribute to political campaigns and you don't represent voting citizens. So, having a lobbyist might be a first step, but it doesn't mean that your cause will be heard.
Hadron seems to have a very myopic view for everything. Anything and everything for him leads to a political contributions. How about trying the old fashioned way of making the lawmakers aware of the situation of legal immigrants. I don't know whether he has ever seen a reply to a fax from any senator/rep, but all of these misconstrue our request as being either a) A request to increase H1b quota or b) Give amnesty to illegal immigrants. The fact of the matter is the lawmakers do NOT know about our plight. If you read another post in this forum by the CA team that visited Sen. Dianne Feinstein's office, it came out very loud and clear! They had no clue about our plight. This coming from a senator who handles all the high tech firms in Silicon Valley with thousands of legal alien constituents! Imagine how much a senator from a state with no techie firms (like say South Dakota/Wyoming etc) know about us? Nothing, Nada, Zilch....but their vote is worth as much as any other senator.....so the primary aim for us as an org is to make every lawmaker realize our plight and influnce their decisions
Our main ally in the immigration arena is the US chamber of commerce. They are spending considerable money on advocating for employment based immigration reform (their main thrust however is getting access to unskilled workers, either through a guest worker program or through legalization. in a secondary way they are interested in higher H1b quotas to get access to cheap professionals, fixing retrogression is not very high on their agenda). Have you talked to other organizations classically on our side yet ?
What makes Hadron think that what he believes (that US chamber of commerce is our main ally) is gospel? In case he does not know, there are many other orgs that have a similar agenda. We have made significant progress in establishing relations with many of these orgs. Unfortunately, we cannot reveal everything here. There is more to it than meets the eye! Thats where QGA is helping us immensely
Quote:
Otherwise, please remember that those who forget the lessons of history (i.e. S 1932 defeat) will have to see them repeated!
Please, save me the melodramatics.
Immigration bills get introduced by the dozen every year, most of them don't even make it into committee (but every time one gets introduced, people here on this board get all excited that finally 'relief is here'.) Even if a coalition of influential senators picks up the issue, there is no guarantee that it will go anywhere.
True, but how often do you see rallies across the country either pro or anti immigrants? How often do you hear about immigration being a hot issue and being discussed on CNN/Fox everyday? How often does the President address it in his State of the Union address? The fact of the matter is that this issue is really hot right now. Do not forget that this is an election year. A lot of the reps hoping to get reelected from border states like TX.AZ etc had promised their constituents that they will tackle immigration reforms. If they do nothing, they will face the wrath!
If there was ever a chance of an immigration bill passing, it is now. If that does not happen, forget about any chance of any immigration related stuff happening in the next 5 years. The question we need to ask ourselves right now is, 'Am I going to TRY to do something this time or should I try it after 5 years'. I know my answer is NOW. But if you want to be pessimistic and think that no bill might get passed, you are in the wrong place. You are better off visiting murthy.com and hope that she announces rapid movement of dates. the primary reason we are all converging here is because we believe that something will happen to the immigration bill and we want to make sure we are not forgotten
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This is last post:
I am not angry at anyone, and I don't think that any of my posts can be misconstrued to convey that impression.
I think it is a good idea to start (another) lobbying organization for immigrant rights as the existing ones have a interests very different from us. All the latino groups are only interested in family immigration and legalization of illegals, employment based immigration is only a little blip on their radar screen. Industry on the other hand has their own agenda, again not one coinciding with our issues.
I just think that some of the people involved in IV.com are taking step2 before they have taken step1. They have a nice website (no big suprise with a project run by IT professionals) and are already soliciting contributions, but some aspects of it make me wonder about the level of professionalism involved.
Just to clarify, we are all people with daily jobs other than Immigration Voice. This is a volunteer organization. Do not expect a macromedia flash welcome screen.
So as apparently some of the founders of this organization are present on this board, I would like the following questions answered:
- what is the legal form of your non-profit organization ?
Its on our home page, but just in case, we have applied for 501 C4 status
- is this entity registered in any state, if yes in which ?
Again, the address is listed on the web site.....but since you did not bother to check it, it is NJ
- who is registered as the owner of the organizations bank account ?
It is owned by Immigration Voice. Remember, this is a NON Profit organization. It cannot be 'owned' by a person. Again this is on the web site..
- what is the structure of the organization ? Do you have dues paying members, is there a board of directors, trustees ??
Yes....if you know about 501 C4 orgs, they all NEED to have an org structure and there are officers and a board of trustees
- who are the officers of the organization ?
Everything is in place. 501 C4 cannot be registered without that.
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satish_hello
08-23 10:28 PM
Ok..., but can you tell me how they are approving cses for PD EB3'2003 or Any EB3 cases daily, when EB3 is 'U', do you have answer for this.
Since ther is plenty of approval going on everyday.
They are not following any PD for the last 3-months approval, I don't believe any rule they have.Now they are already under pressure , and the pressure started already.They have to clean up.I don't think they will wait untill next year June, since Election is on Sept'2008.
-satish
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I-485 - Sent July5th.
RD - ?
AD -?
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Since ther is plenty of approval going on everyday.
They are not following any PD for the last 3-months approval, I don't believe any rule they have.Now they are already under pressure , and the pressure started already.They have to clean up.I don't think they will wait untill next year June, since Election is on Sept'2008.
-satish
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EB2/PD-Sept'2004/I-140 Approved.
I-485 - Sent July5th.
RD - ?
AD -?
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pd2001_12
12-27 07:14 PM
my PD is april 2001
and still waiting , & when we call ins we get a letter
still in processing time :(
what can we do?
Thats too bad. Call your local congress man(either senate/house). I have seen people with relative success.
and still waiting , & when we call ins we get a letter
still in processing time :(
what can we do?
Thats too bad. Call your local congress man(either senate/house). I have seen people with relative success.
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xela
01-15 10:05 AM
sent letter to WH and copy to IV
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whoever
04-14 08:39 AM
China eb3 may move but not india eb3. there are too many of them. i dont think there will be any cir or things like it passed this year. there is already however several bills writting to resolve but with eb3 world and rest doing just fine, why would the congress want to do something for india. i would be very surprised if they did
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sumanitha
01-12 03:07 PM
Donot take Maternity Card..
It will not be helpful at all..
Instead you can have your negotiations with your Doctor and Hospital.
In Dallas (Las Collinas), if you dont have medical insurance, you can have an arrangement with the Doctor and Hospital.
Like one of my friend paid 3K for everything for Delivery + 5K I think for the hospitals. Ofcourse this is based on the delivery is not complicated / C-section couple of years ago.
Hope this helps.
It will not be helpful at all..
Instead you can have your negotiations with your Doctor and Hospital.
In Dallas (Las Collinas), if you dont have medical insurance, you can have an arrangement with the Doctor and Hospital.
Like one of my friend paid 3K for everything for Delivery + 5K I think for the hospitals. Ofcourse this is based on the delivery is not complicated / C-section couple of years ago.
Hope this helps.
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nosightofgc
10-10 08:18 AM
I worked for Everest Inc for the first six months in the US and I came through them. They were ok with me. Even though I left the company before 1 Year, they did not charge.
I am not sure whether we need to have a original 140. I never asked my employer and even they did not mention about that.
I am not sure whether we need to have a original 140. I never asked my employer and even they did not mention about that.
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milestogo
07-22 04:53 PM
any inputs....?
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chtting2me
10-10 06:04 PM
I opened this thread to know any one working with everest techologies "www.everesttechinc.com" . basically to know how they are treating other employers. Looks like no work is working with them.
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venkygct
09-04 12:43 AM
- Folks who decided to join the rally from CA, please vote here.
- Folks who is yet decide, please act FAST and book the tickets...
- Folks who wont be able to make it for the rally for sure, Please sponsor someone for the rally and vote @
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=12441
- Folks who is yet decide, please act FAST and book the tickets...
- Folks who wont be able to make it for the rally for sure, Please sponsor someone for the rally and vote @
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=12441
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Gravitation
07-06 03:47 PM
Members: can you request IV to endorse this ... more than 100 people are waiting to get hear 'YES' from core...
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6025
thank you
It'll be nice if the core endorsed it. We members do contribute and participate in all campaigns when core asks. It'll be great if the core lets the ideas bubble up from members too! That'll make it a two way street.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6025
thank you
It'll be nice if the core endorsed it. We members do contribute and participate in all campaigns when core asks. It'll be great if the core lets the ideas bubble up from members too! That'll make it a two way street.
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raj2007
02-19 12:18 PM
Wellwin I am totally agree with your points and whatever you have mentioned in your message is appreciable.
like_watching_paint_dry your points are valid but try to see from the other side I mean think if would have chosen for CP instead of 485.
Please don't hink that CP filers are not contributing in any efforts of immigration voice, I have also sent letters to president for this latest campaign although there was no point mentioned for CP. I know that we can win this battle together.
In short I just want to say that it would be good if we all work together please do consider the CP filers as part of this community.
Thanks
Hi TInku,
I got my GC thru CP only and I think you were aware about the fact that CP files will not able to get EAD. There are risk and rewards with every action.
Frankly I donot think anything is going to happen in election year regarding immigration. If anything happen it will be next year depending on situation.
like_watching_paint_dry your points are valid but try to see from the other side I mean think if would have chosen for CP instead of 485.
Please don't hink that CP filers are not contributing in any efforts of immigration voice, I have also sent letters to president for this latest campaign although there was no point mentioned for CP. I know that we can win this battle together.
In short I just want to say that it would be good if we all work together please do consider the CP filers as part of this community.
Thanks
Hi TInku,
I got my GC thru CP only and I think you were aware about the fact that CP files will not able to get EAD. There are risk and rewards with every action.
Frankly I donot think anything is going to happen in election year regarding immigration. If anything happen it will be next year depending on situation.
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pointlesswait
11-19 02:28 PM
a self serving proposal..
MS is just a pretext for many who are here. MS is worthless if you are a software engineer.. you don't need MS to be coding in Java or .NET...
MS from some vague sidey backstreet community college cannot be compared to MS from other better off schools.
your proposal is distracting from the main agenda. CIR or other relief measures.
In the same lines as H1B, could we look into if its possible to add a quota for US Masters degree holders irrespective of country of birth for green Card also. This would be in addition to the existing Employment based quotas.
Does anyone know how they added 20k H1B quota for Masters degree holders? Who sponsored that bill? May be we should talk to the same people.
I would think there would be a little less resistance for this? This would ease the pressure on both EB2 and EB3.
I dont know if this has been previously looked at. I know there were talks of excluding these people from quota all together.
MS is just a pretext for many who are here. MS is worthless if you are a software engineer.. you don't need MS to be coding in Java or .NET...
MS from some vague sidey backstreet community college cannot be compared to MS from other better off schools.
your proposal is distracting from the main agenda. CIR or other relief measures.
In the same lines as H1B, could we look into if its possible to add a quota for US Masters degree holders irrespective of country of birth for green Card also. This would be in addition to the existing Employment based quotas.
Does anyone know how they added 20k H1B quota for Masters degree holders? Who sponsored that bill? May be we should talk to the same people.
I would think there would be a little less resistance for this? This would ease the pressure on both EB2 and EB3.
I dont know if this has been previously looked at. I know there were talks of excluding these people from quota all together.
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mrajatish
12-28 10:02 PM
Per AC 21, it is soft quota - if you think about it, it is pretty simple.
In EB1, every country has 7% quota. Anything unused in EB1 ROW first goes to EB1 India and China. After that, the remaining number (say 4000) should flow to EB2. In EB2, every country has same 7% quota. Let us say 2000 is left unused. So, in all, 6000 extra visas should flow to anyone in EB2 category based on Pri dates.
In EB1, every country has 7% quota. Anything unused in EB1 ROW first goes to EB1 India and China. After that, the remaining number (say 4000) should flow to EB2. In EB2, every country has same 7% quota. Let us say 2000 is left unused. So, in all, 6000 extra visas should flow to anyone in EB2 category based on Pri dates.
Wendyzhu77
01-03 03:36 PM
I am not so sure where you get the impression that being a pilot is not a glamarous job any more. If you equate airline pilot to taxi drivers, you would probabily see planes dropping from sky like raining, and I bet few would dare to take commercial airline, unless one with suicidal tendency.
However, that relates another interesting part about outsourcing: lots of people are saying outsourcing are good and you can get anyone to do the IT job, but it really turned out that lots of oursourced jobs are done so poorly that eventually it costs more for the company.
We think about outsourcing because it affects engineers the most. especially IT/software. Remember software is still a tool. What you do with the software is more important. The process of creating software is just like making any other tool (every problem is hard to solve only for the first time).
Western countries started the industrial revolution (manufacturing/factories). Now China is leading in manufacturing. IT revolution, again was started in the west. In 20 years, it is possible that very few lines of original software is written in the US. Its not that US does not have smart people who cannot be trained as engineers but more like the smart people in US prefer other occupations as compared to engineering/software.
I imagine the computer/internet revolution to be similar to the air travel revolution. Both made the world a smaller place. A few decades ago, being a pilot was a glamorous, high paying job. While pilots may still be reasonably paid, they are now perceived just like taxi drivers (with all due respect to both professions). What is to say how IT engineers are perceived as in a few decades from now. 13 years ago, a maths professor who taught us a class said "Before the computer was invented, we had a profession called typists; now they are called computer scientists".
US education system : A few months ago, there was an article that debunked the myth that 'US education is falling behind other countries'. The US education system may be a little pressured (especially in places with more population - but certainly not falling behind other countries. Just count the number of colleges in the US.
I am not just being brouhaha about the US. But just putting things in a different perspective.
H1B, GC, legal immigration are just sub audible noise in the overall scheme of things. Yes. it affects us a great deal because we cannot live unfettered lives.
On the other hand, India & China ( & Brazil/latin america & Russia) are starting to rise back (yes, each country had its own golden past - remember Columbus was trying to find a route to India when he discovered America. Marco Polo is still remembered for discovering the silk route to China....) These countries got left out of the renaissance, industrial revolution developments that gave western europe and north america an edge over the 3rd world countries.
Growth in the above mentioned countries will result in increased demand for goods and services that will benefit the overall global economy.
IMO
However, that relates another interesting part about outsourcing: lots of people are saying outsourcing are good and you can get anyone to do the IT job, but it really turned out that lots of oursourced jobs are done so poorly that eventually it costs more for the company.
We think about outsourcing because it affects engineers the most. especially IT/software. Remember software is still a tool. What you do with the software is more important. The process of creating software is just like making any other tool (every problem is hard to solve only for the first time).
Western countries started the industrial revolution (manufacturing/factories). Now China is leading in manufacturing. IT revolution, again was started in the west. In 20 years, it is possible that very few lines of original software is written in the US. Its not that US does not have smart people who cannot be trained as engineers but more like the smart people in US prefer other occupations as compared to engineering/software.
I imagine the computer/internet revolution to be similar to the air travel revolution. Both made the world a smaller place. A few decades ago, being a pilot was a glamorous, high paying job. While pilots may still be reasonably paid, they are now perceived just like taxi drivers (with all due respect to both professions). What is to say how IT engineers are perceived as in a few decades from now. 13 years ago, a maths professor who taught us a class said "Before the computer was invented, we had a profession called typists; now they are called computer scientists".
US education system : A few months ago, there was an article that debunked the myth that 'US education is falling behind other countries'. The US education system may be a little pressured (especially in places with more population - but certainly not falling behind other countries. Just count the number of colleges in the US.
I am not just being brouhaha about the US. But just putting things in a different perspective.
H1B, GC, legal immigration are just sub audible noise in the overall scheme of things. Yes. it affects us a great deal because we cannot live unfettered lives.
On the other hand, India & China ( & Brazil/latin america & Russia) are starting to rise back (yes, each country had its own golden past - remember Columbus was trying to find a route to India when he discovered America. Marco Polo is still remembered for discovering the silk route to China....) These countries got left out of the renaissance, industrial revolution developments that gave western europe and north america an edge over the 3rd world countries.
Growth in the above mentioned countries will result in increased demand for goods and services that will benefit the overall global economy.
IMO
pady
08-21 10:13 AM
Office of Inspector General, they investigate all Labor Frauds
