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  • user1205
    02-12 01:37 PM
    As far as I know the country quotas are followed only in the first 3 quarters of the year. Last year a lot of numbers were used for India/China in the June/July fiasco and ROW used less than the yearly quota. India had I think 3 times the yearly quota in those months. So they're trying to use up as much as they can for ROW this year I guess.

    I have the same question. State dept moves the date just so that the visa numbers are used for that category. If a category is retrogressed, then it can't really be "undersubscribed".

    This was listed at the bottom of the page in the March VB in state dept's website:

    The cut-off date movement for March in several Employment categories has been greater than those experienced in recent months. Advancement of the cut-off dates at this time should prevent a situation later in the fiscal year where there are large amounts of numbers available but not enough time to use them. If the expected increase in CIS number use materializes, future cut-off date movements could slow or stop.

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  • gcfriend65
    06-28 10:00 AM
    So, are you saying that USCIS uses quarterly quota versus monthly quota. According to an earlier post:
    Hi Macaca;

    This is taken from the July 2000 VB:

    At the beginning of each month, the Visa Office receives a report from each immigrant visa processing post listing totals of documentarily qualified immigrant visa applicants in categories subject to numerical limitation.
    Cases are grouped by foreign state chargeability/preference/priority date. No names are reported. During the first week of each month, this documentarily qualified demand is tabulated.
    VO subdivides the annual preference and foreign state limitations which are specified by the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) into twelve monthly allotments. The totals of documentarily qualified applicants reported to VO, and the expected INS demand for numbers, are compared each month with the numbers available for the next regular allotment. This allows for the determination of the monthly cut-off dates, and the allotment of numbers for reported applicants who have priority dates within the newly established cut-off dates.If there are sufficient numbers in a particular category to satisfy all reported documentarily qualified demand, the category is considered "current."

    From this it is very clear that the number of Visas available for the rest of the FY 07 is enough to accept as many applications as can be approved in those 3 months(July, Aug and Sep).

    I think the 40,000 number is the wastage predicted by the ombudsman at the prior rate of approval that was prevalent earlier in the year. This probably implies that CIS would have used about 100,000 numbers at it's prior rate or about 25000 per quarter. This in turn would imply that CIS would have roughly 40000 (predicted wastage) + 25000 (last quarter's numbers that might have been used had CIS continued at it's earlier pace) = approx 65000 available starting June 1. I highly doubt if this could be used in just a month or two.

    But all said and done, whatever the real number of visas that's available I feel it's in everybody's best interest to just apply at the earliest they possibly could.

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  • nomi
    09-29 01:19 PM
    Hi Kukitron and all,
    I am having a new h1b with validity 7/2009. But My Visa expired by Aug,2006. Please clarify, can i travel from canada to Seattle thro Road with the expired visa and the new h1b which contains a valid I-94


    Yes you can according to following rule


    There are lot of condition which you need to follow in order to use this Law. That`s why I am asking other people about it and see how many people use it and what they said about it.

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  • xela
    02-13 02:57 PM
    What ever gave you the idea that EB ROW only wait for 3 years? There's this common misconception flying around here that somehow ROW just cruises by

    YEs all the people I know around me are ROW EB3 and PDs 2002 and 2003 and no GC, so please stop thinking we have it so good!

    With regard to the per country limit.....there is only one for the first 3 quaters and it seems like in the last couple of times in the last quater India and Chine and maybe Phillipines did end up getting more GCs than their per country limit, at least I was so informed by my lawyers.

    Besides that, immigration is a privilege not a right, so if the US wants diversity and limit per country immigration, it is their right to do so. Before you start being shocked by this, I am NOT saying I do not understand your frustration and the feeling you discriminated against, but rights are rights and we knew that before we started the process. If we can improve it great, if we can't we will just have to deal with it realisticly.

    Some EU countries are doing the exact same thing by the way.
    I do believe in diversity in any way and shape, and I do not stand for discrimination. I am just trying to face the reality.
    I also have days when I wonder about leaving my own country which provided me with a wonderful education and how I am taking away from that country by leaving for my own success? if you don't have days when you feel guilty good for you.

    take care


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  • eb2_mumbai
    09-15 08:21 AM
    Dude, we need to take into account the thousands of EB3 I -> EB2 I conversions :(

    Its not as easy as you make it sound. If a person starts today for a new EB2 labor it will take least 1.5 years to get new I 140 approved. This is without any RFE at either stage. Considering today's environment where even simple H1 transfer has become a challenge it takes a really brave person to be playing with fire. Most consulting companies are not enthusiasitc about filing labors and fulltime companies have already said that they are getting too many responses to job advertisement so labor cannot be filed.

    Add to that it takes least $7000 to file both labor and 140 in terms of expenses.

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  • GCwaitforever
    06-21 04:11 PM
    The problem lies with entire GC process being Employer-centric. Employee is just a pawn in the game. Employers can do whatever they want. The market test for LCA conducted by DOL itself is so ridiculous. How would a test conducted in 2002 be any relevant for a Greencard application that would be approved six or eight years from that date?


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  • kumarc123
    10-06 07:22 PM
    We should follow up on this. US Economy really can take advantage of our buying power. If they give us GC, people will start buying and stop sending their savings to off-shore. Also, buying each house comes with at least 50K other expenses (remodelling, furniture etc) and that will also help the economy.

    IV should follow up on this topic with Lawmaker and see if they can understand the logic here.

    I can't concur with you less, we need to send this message to American people, also immigrants in this country are the ones, who start maximum numbr of small businesses, more number of borrowing of laons from banks etc

    Lets make something happen,

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  • ilwaiting
    03-17 10:33 AM
    The sooner LC substitution goes away the lesser we have to deal with such questions. And the sooner we would get our green cards.

    hi All,

    Can someone give me advice on this:

    I have 4 yrs Bachelors + 6.5 yrs of IT exp. i am being offered a Pre- approved labor(EB3-PD-Nov.2003), which was filed for someone with a condition-Bachelors + 4 years exp., at the time of filing.
    i graduated in June 2000, so i am about 1 year short for the 2003 PD. However i did some part time work during college in India and the lawyer says if i can get exp. letter from that company on a letter head, that should suffice.
    i am concerned if that India exp. during graduation will work or not.
    Has anyone faced a situation like this?
    the (part time exp)company was very small, can this be risky? what do you guys think?



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  • TeddyKoochu
    09-17 03:23 PM
    I wish the statement is true.

    I think your friends cousin got the card by mistake, that does not mean that it will see a significant moment for EB3 I. The only possibility is if USICIS wants to recapture the unused visa numbers over a period of time, then EB2 I, EB3 I all move together.

    Arun thanks for sharing the news & congrats to your cousins friend, may well be one of the cases of successfully porting PD.


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  • gc_chahiye
    06-28 07:41 PM
    I suggest that you do this: Send the URL from AILA's memo about what happened to EB3-other worker category in June. And copy your HR and senior folks of your company when you email lawyer. That will tend to focus the attention of your lawfirm and they will either have to say "We will file asap" or they will have to say "AILA's memo doesnt mean anything".

    I bet they will come back with the former conclusion.

    Apparently, these lawyers have been too conditioned to work 30 hours per week and now, having to work 60 hours per week is too tough. NEWSFLASH LAWYERS : We idiots in IT and software very often work long hours to meet project deadlines. Its a part of life. Get used to it or like I said before, find something else to do. Like basket weaving or poetry writing so that you dont have to see deadlines and dont have to burn midnight oil.

    This deadline is meaningless for them. We are not going anywhere. If dates retrogress, then we'll simply come back to them after 2 years or whatever.

    Unless the senior folks in your HR department specifically ask them to file asap, they wont.

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  • Circus123
    02-12 12:42 PM
    September 2001 will be current next month for sure ...


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  • grupak
    02-15 06:42 PM
    I don't know what % of that group consists of H4 spouse of H1 folks. But i believe a good percentage of those applied through the TOEFL,GRE route.

    Anyone knows of statistics for F1 visas per country? This might fill in some gaps here. My impression was some countries send more F1s than others.

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  • acecupid
    08-15 09:27 AM
    Try detaining any of their top Hollywood Heroes at an Indian airport for 2 hours and see how USA media and people will react to it.

    You people have no respect for your own motherland and always think everything American is good than your own country. Learn to stand up for your motherland. Just because you want your greencard does not mean you forget your roots. Anti-Immigrants (read racists) of this country will still call you slumdogs even if you are a citizen of this country. But your own country people will never forget you and will accept you as their own even if you have lived here for 50 years.

    Learn to love your motherland.

    I completely agree with you that we should never forget our roots or our motherland. India is far better than US when it comes to family values and many other things. However, this story has nothing to do about standing up for our own country/motherland. Every person who has a common name with terrorist names has had troubles at POE since 9/11. So who cares if he is SRK or anyone for that matter. When Colin Powell was the chief of security under Bush administration he had to go through airport security just like any other common person. The TSA here in US treats everyone the same. Do you think ministers or celebrities in India follow any security procedures ? Every now and then you hear of ministers and celebrities involved in smuggling scandals.
    There are good and bad things about every nation. IMHO, security procedures in US are the far better than India and apply the same way to everyone unlike in India. If you are so concerned about standing up for your motherland, what are you doing in the US ? Should I be calling you a traitor ? My point is, this case of SRK has nothing to do with loyality to motherland or racism. It is an unfortunate aftermath of 9/11 and we all know its been happening at POE.


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  • johnmcdonald98
    04-23 01:48 PM
    I work for this company and I moved to the different state. Now my company has approved labor from the state I was before in with similar job as mine with similar degree as mine. What do you guys say, should I go for substitution? Lawyer says that even though I am in a different state, he can apply for this, but if it takes more than 6 months, he will file state change and I will be ok. Worst case is, I have to move, but only when its approved. What do you guys say, should I go for it?


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  • rp1975
    07-16 02:45 PM
    This is a question for the attorny.

    Dear Sir/Madam,
    Firstly I would like to thank you for providing answer to our questions on this forum.

    My current status:
    PD March 2004
    EB3 India
    Approved 140
    485 Pending (Applied July 2007)

    1. Can I switch my EB category from EB3 to EB2, and maintain my original PD? If yes, what are the steps required if,

    a. I continue to work for the same employer that filed my labor certification, assuming my collective experience qualifies for EB2

    b. I invoke AC21 and take a new job which satisfies AC21 requirements, assuming the new job has the same duties but is a senior level position which also qualifies for EB2



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  • alexanderthegreat
    10-17 09:34 AM
    Hello everyone,

    Those of you who had gone thru this process may be able to help me. My 7 year old daughter is a US citizen. If my family applies for Canadian PR, do I have to apply for PR for her also?. I have heard that US citizens do not need any permission to live in Canada. Any insight is appreciated.


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  • thecipher5
    04-23 12:59 PM

    There is definately an element of risk and it is high in case of LC substitution. In my case, the LC said that the candidate should have MS and few years of experience and I didn't satisfy all the requirements and eventually got a query from USCIS and rejected the application.

    If you can get it approved through a good lawyer like Sheela Murthy or Rajiv Khanna, then you can make a decision.

    At times, USCIS doesn't allow to substitute MS degree with experience and it depends on the wording of the LC.

    I'd read about this in different forums, talked to lawyers and friends.

    Still, you can talk to others who've done it and then make your decision.

    -- thecipher5

    01-13 03:52 PM

    In this country it is not the H1bs alone do consultanting/contract. Many staffing companies are there, and even individuals have their own companies and go for contract jobs. I have seen many prefer contract jobs because they make more money when compared to full time. If American businesses got used with consulting/contract even without H1bs, then why this department do not want to accept the practice. Why should small consulting companies get affected?

    12-14 03:47 PM
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