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  • eb3_nepa
    05-10 04:53 PM
    Why is this is a New Tune being sung suddenly? I mean i can see your point, but why this sudden introduction. So far IV was showing the lawmakers how good the Canadian/Australian system was. Now one of the super moderators is mentioning that despite all the exploitation the US system is better?

    Pls dont get me wrong i am not making snide remarks. Just wondering if this was a personal thought or that is now going to be IV's policy.

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  • lazycis
    02-12 10:33 PM
    Educate yourself, check these out:


    http://www.uscis.gov/vgn-ext-templating/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=1dc6aca797e63110VgnVCM10000047 18190aRCRD&vgnextchannel=1dc6aca797e63110VgnVCM1000004718190a RCRD

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  • samay
    07-14 06:49 AM
    Thank You Samay !!

    I was in US from 2000 to 2001 on h1b.(first h1 approval)
    Went to india and worked there from 2001 to 2006
    On new H1 came to US on 2006
    I didnt had the H1b approval copy of first h1 approval(2000 -2001) when I applied for 140. I submitted
    only the current one which is from 2006. My 140 is not yet approved.
    So I would like to make sure whether h1b approval notice copy during 2000 to 2001 was needed/
    will be needed in future.I had submitted 140 during July 07.

    Is it needed for any 140 RFE or 485 level ?

    Good Day !

    Originally Posted by rajeshalex

    Could you tell at 140 level does a candidate needs to submit all the previous
    H1 Approval notices.

    I couldnt submit my previous 140 approval notice since it was during 2000-2001. How important is the previous H1 B approval notices for a 140 approval ? . I submitted the current approval notice which is from 2006-2009



    We normally submit all the previous H-1B approvals with the I-140 application. I am a bit confused from your post is there a gap in your H-1 B approvals.

    Was your earlier H-1Bapproval mentioned at all in the I-140. If not I would not worry about it. Relax.

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  • ganguteli
    04-01 11:06 PM
    As long as we are not citizens of USA showing interest in Indian politics is ok. I would say even after becoming citizens it is ok since we are connecting to our country of birth/origin. If someone wants to discuss Burma or China, they can also do that.

    We are immigrants and still are nostalgic to our India. Nothing wrong in it.

    Now tell me, at home do you only discuss immigration with your wife and kids just because you do not have a greencard and are obsessed with it? or do you only discuss work in your office just because you are at work and office is for work? Don't you joke around, have a fun time etc at work too? or do you just send a rude email in big red letters to your CEO saying please delete my name from your payroll because someone in my office is discussing something other than work and I am offended.


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  • krishmunn
    07-27 10:43 AM
    Its like asking an anti-immigrant, what you think about legal/illegal immigration?

    I guess you would get better idea if you call up Amway corporation or FTC and find out. And not from other who spend their time flipping channels and burping beer.
    As far as I know there are people from US Army, NASA scientists, NFL players, pastors etc.....from different background are very successfully building the franchise business. No wonder they are growing $1.2 billion dollars every year since 1950.
    Of course is not for everyone; its only for people who know the power of free enterprise on which this country is built on.

    Question is whether it will work for you? Your families finances are decided by you, and not by any other people. If you do take advice from other, then you will be flipping channels and burping beer too, and it takes one big financial hit to wipe you off the slate.

    If you are making millions with Amway, why are you sitting with a EB-3 PD ? Go for EB-5 :)
    From Wiki "more than half of the distributors do not make any money, with the average distributor making less than $100 per month."

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  • indiancitizen77
    08-27 11:44 PM
    Our frustration with the US legal immigration and retrogression seems endless. My wife and I are considering immigration prospects to Canada. Can somebody please suggest good responsive lawfirms that could handle a Canadian PR application? We would also appreciate some insight on Canadian immigration prospects for physicians. Thanks


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  • dilipcr
    06-11 08:50 PM
    Makes sense now. Peace.

    Now to prove my point that we had all of today's similar issues then. Here is my after GC post.


    I hope you people wouldn't simply jump to a conclusion that I was lucky. I went through all the travails of layoffs, GC backlogs etc.

    Peace !!

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  • anilsal
    11-12 11:57 PM
    As for the people who have benefited, there is something to be said about being in the right place at right time.......

    Curious as to how many of them will have negative feelings towards CIR, SKIL or H1B quota increase. I am sure the percentage will be high.

    Lots of big companies have made use of this labor substitution.


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  • _TrueFacts
    09-04 11:09 PM
    From TOI: http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=841163

    Authored way back in 2004

    says:Mr. Iyer’s account should be an eye-opener for those who believed that the TDP lost in Andhra because its programmes had no human face. The face of YSR unmasked by the author is that of a monster and the way the man has worked his way up to become the Chief Minister shows the farcical character of Indian democracy. We wish Sonia Gandhi and Dr. Manmohan Singh spare time to go through this account to know the breed of the horses the Congress party had been backing in the electoral race. It is hard to believe that with the intelligence network at their disposal they were unaware of the criminal background of the man who succeeded Chandrababu Naidu. When we compare the two characters, one the promoter of E-governance and the other the promoter of heinous crimes and corruption we get the uneasy feeling that in India democracy is being raped rather than respected. Leave Andhra alone. Even the Lok Sabha is dominated by criminals whose only qualification is that they are not yet judicially convicted. There is Soren, the Mining Minister, charged for murdering 10 persons in 1975 awaiting to be arrested and hand-cuffed by the Police. Then, of course, we have a number of charge-sheeted under-trials set free on bail including the great Lalu who are Cabinet ministers. Obviously, under compulsion of coalition politics, Dr. Manmohas Singh has no control over these ministers. Depending on the numerical strength of their parties in the Lok Sabha, they dare come out with their own policy announcements every now and then taking the approval of the Prime Minister and the concerned Cabinet Committees for granted on the plea that their decisions were within the confines of the CMP directly or by implication. Paswan’s policy regarding control over production, pricing and distribution of steel, Lalu’s announcement to have Godhra carnage investigated again, DMK coercing the UPA Govt, to release Cavery water for Tamil Nadu, Chief Minister of Andhra (YSR) announcing 5 per cent reservation for Muslims, Chief Minister of Punjab legislating against Sutlej-Yamuna canal project are some of the examples to show that the UPA Govt. is virtually sitting on the edge. On top it, there is the Left occupying the driver’s seat commandeering the UPA Govt. We have a feeling that this Govt. is living on borrowed time and might fall sooner than later..: Sharad C. Misra.
    [20 Jul, 2004 1737hrs IST]

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  • newbee7
    07-03 07:02 PM

    I provided the link to Sen. Lofgren's website

    and to Siskind blog calling this a scandal.


    Please do the same. Too many request will get us noticed and can result in a larger story.


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  • go_guy123
    06-15 01:23 PM
    I believe in luck in the GC process. Before 2005 PERM process, many folks applied in states where Labor was fast. They were able to get greencards within a couple of years while others were stuck in Labor Backlog centers (http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=67&Itemid=50). Some cleared all hurdles and got stuck in namechecks for years. Until 2007 Namecheck was a big scare. (http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=81&Itemid=61)

    Many people could not file in July 07 for various reasons. Some people were born in India but were brought up in other country. Even they are stuck. Some people decided to rise in their careers and changed jobs on H1. While they did rise, but lost in the grreencard PD race.

    So definitely luck pays its role.

    Well said pappu....In case 2 of my friends Indian citizens, brought up in India
    but were born outside India because their parents were posted there.

    Also I know friends whose Labor was processed from "fast" states in 2000 and got there GC by 2003 or so.

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  • go2roomshare
    07-11 06:11 PM
    I know people who got their GC in 7 months from the date they filed PERM. and then there are many people getting GCs every month. There are both good stories and bad stories to tell about getting GC in US.

    There were times when H1 quota never reached the limit during the whole fiscal year, now they get used in just 2 days. This mess in GC process is a result mainly due to our own actions (temporary workers and consulting companies hiring temporary workers). Do you think majority of us once we get GC, stay with the consulting company that filed for our GC? When a consulting company files for PERM, they already have a foreign national working under H-1B in that position. So where is the real intent to hire an American when some foreigner is already working at that position?

    This employment based GC is a way for us foreigners to immigrate to US easily at one point. Now due to our extreme usage and abuse of this process, there are genuine people who are being sponsored to immigrate to US are also suffering. In a true employment GC scenario, the company should be desperate to keep you for a long time (more than 6 years after H-1B is maxed) for your valuable skills that they were unable to find in others. But in most GC cases, looks like we temporary workers are more desperate than our employers for the GC? aren't we? Do you see any companies sweating on how to retain you with them, because you H-1B is expiring and they have no way to keep you?

    Do not put all the blame on US immigration system, the majority of the blame should fall on us and the companies who are helping us to get GCs when our cases are not based on genuine sponsors.

    You are right, this is partly true. I work in one of forture 20 company , they redid whole GC on EB2 since Eb3 PD is getting wrost. it wad done just to make me happy and keep me with the company. How many employers will do that? I know lot of my friends had to prey employers and pay from their pocket for same. It is really comes to individual case. on whole i belive we are in more disparate position for GC than employers who really should be.
    this is open secret, don't you agree.


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  • mheggade
    02-14 12:24 PM
    I understand the mood among fellow Indians , due to substantial dates movement for ROW but it dint move enough for India. Lets take the high road and stop bickering among ourselves and lets get back to the Action Item which needs to be done.

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  • reddymjm
    09-23 03:48 PM
    As per the other thread HR5882 is dead for now.. So concentrate on this now...


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  • nogreencard4ever
    09-04 09:09 PM
    hey stop the nonsense. u r trying to argue with everyone. u r playing with people emotions.
    why don't u just stop the arguments over here. just leave the dead person in peace.
    if u don't like him just go and talk with someone else who also doesn't like him in ur family or with ur friends. i think u r spending too much time bashing YSR and his son.
    r u considering urself as a "SAINT" , if u r saint, u have right to talk about other persons.
    otherwise u should shut ur mouth. Its good for u and ur family. u used the word "KUKKA CHAVU" that's not at all accepted. i think u should keep ur tongue when u r using those words.

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  • wandmaker
    08-12 02:31 AM
    I have been granted a PR last week; Now, I am waiting for the card to arrive in the mail. I will be traveling out of USA next weekend. I renewed my H1 once since my last entry and have one white I-94 and other one came with the 797 approval notice. Do I need to give my I-94 to the airline staff or should I keep it with me? Please advice.


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  • unseenguy
    04-01 02:08 AM
    Well said. It is similar to Bill Clinton takes credit for revolution in IT area. It is all time. Gujarat prospered becuse of successful bussiness minded people. Growth was aided by high demand for export. I agree with you that though a guy has a great leadership skills, commanding speech, great administartive and management skills, if he commited/aided the crime, he has no right to hold the office. See the Alska Senator..He was one of the most successful politician and elected many times from alska for Senate. Now he is in jail at his very old age, just becuse he got money from oil comapines to renovate his house.

    There are lot of ifs and buts in life & world like .....

    I should get development job not testing.
    Bush should not have become president
    Mugabe should leave his post
    Pakistan should fix terrorism.
    China should have better human rights record
    Burma should release aung san su ki
    UK should return the gold it stole from India
    Australia should stop sledging in cricket and play like gentleman

    Similarly, I got the job because economy was good not that I did something.
    Obama became president because Bush screwed it up and he didnt have the talent.
    Pakistan is violent because Afganistan is out of control and they are unfortunate recipients of terror not creators.
    China has human rights problem because Tibetans are problem childs, not that China has done anything wrong.

    Similarly your wish is Criminals should not fight elections. Let me tell you that without favorable government policies the businesses can't succeed. The very business minded Gujratis have democratically elected Modi even after his visa refusal by US and Sonia madam touting him as a merchant of death etc. Right now Gujrat is no. 1 state in India in economic development index. So give the guy some credit where its due. All your thoughts are very well intended and ideally that is how things should be but one has to go by reality and one step at a time. Although the hands of law are very long and justice will be served some day or in some way.

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  • gc_chahiye
    06-28 07:14 PM
    My lawfirm just sent everyone an official memo stating the possibility of retrogression sometime in July and that they are working overtime to get all the cases filed at the earliest...They are saying that there is no guarantee that the 485 application will be accepted if DOS decides to retrogress dates in July....

    can you name this firm please?

    Also, anyone using Murthy/rajiv Khanna might want to ping them and get their thoughts on this. Dont know if it matters, consensus now is that dates can go back mid-month and USCIS can also stop accepting applications.

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  • Legal
    07-23 10:20 PM
    Thanks !! I had a quick question ..the rules for the spillover, is that a law or does that depend on USCIS or DOS ?
    In other words can they change the rules for spillover once again ..say next year ?
    I still feel there is small hope for EB3-ww and maybe even EB3-I ...majority of the EB2 cases were filed during july fiasco ..what if they have not been processed yet ? i.e. they will keep moving the dates fwd till it becomes current (if that still does not use up the visas) ..then they would move EB3-ww dates fwd ..once again this is wishing and dreaming :)

    For USCIS, 2007 was "let's reduce some backlog in EB3-category" year.
    It looks like 2008 is " let's reduce some backlog in EB2-category" year.
    On both occassions they hid their plans in right in front of us, and said "gotcha" to every one- AILA, IV prognosticators and Ron Gotchers of this world.

    I doubt USCIS will openly Re-revise the horizontal spill over policy. If they do that they may be challenged again forcing them to Re-Re-revise which will make them look even more stupider than they do now.

    There are other means by which USCIS can deliver justice- mafia style- but within the current law. They need additional help from DOS,DOL, etc.

    examples- (1) Generally sit on EB-2 adjudications, delay them and say there are unused EB2 numbers and allow them to spill over to EB-3

    (2) Clamp down even further on PERM - stretch it from 8 months to 36 months for every applicant including EB2-ROW, make even more unused numbers available to clear backlogs.

    I do not harbor any ill-will towards ROW or any other category. I honestly think above things are possible. :)

    08-02 02:18 PM
    How does one check the comments left along with red and green dots?

    01-13 04:06 PM
    now i'm sure that u'r gcperm.... welcome back....
    So i was right GCPerm was kicked out of this forum for being EB3 ................

    Tell me something Ron . In you opinion what would freak out all the guys more and again
    - If I am GCPerm
    - If I am NOT GCPerm

    Let me know which so that i will agree to be the opposite and then hopefully the guys will calm down or not freak out more. A whole day with the guys here on IV and i am feeling like i took care of 20 bawling, crying children for the complete time. I am not sure i can do that for another day.

    Just between you and me I am not GCPerm but shhhhhhhhh don't tell anyone anything or it might lead to another round of slugfest.