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  • at0474
    12-14 05:06 PM
    I find it abominable that there are still some humans(?) left in this century who want special benefits based on their race and country-of-origin in this 21st century !

    It's time people were measured on merit instead of he is Indian, Chinese or some other nationality. Eliminating country quotas is part of IV strategy on the homepage. If someone has issues with it, well you are working against IV strategy !

    Stop dividing people based on ethnicity - Indians, Chinese and others. Every one deserves equal opportunity, not based on their country, race or color (all abominable ideas to me) , but purely on merit.

    --What you said sounds very interesting. But it got me thinking, what if the merit is equally distributed by the country of origin and there is a limit to the opportunities this country can provide?

    Let us say there are 140,000 EB visas given every year. Based on pure merit and sans any regard to nationality. Don't you think it could potentially lead to more visas being consumed by one country?

    What if this country wants to ensure diversity to its social fabric?? How do they go about doing that?

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  • jsb
    05-29 01:55 PM
    Ok, the guy that sets the dates says that he sees no possibility of dates moving forward for EB India and ppl are still thinking there is hope? I am an optimist and try to see the brighter side - and that side here is that we know there is no hope for those past 2005 in the next two years. That to me is sufficient to make decisions and move on. Be it changing to a different job or going back to the home country - most probably the former for me.
    Folks, we all agree the news delivered is not good. One good way to work en mass is to send complaints in thousands to the Ombudsman. For more details google for CIS Ombudsman.

    Further, if any one is considering to get back home, keep in mind that if you don't contribute to SSA for 10 yrs, your and your employers' contributions are simply lost (with some exceptions for countries with which US has an agreement). To collect SSA at 65 for India/China citizens you need not to be a GC holder. You can collect living in your country. If you are close to 10 yrs, just reach that mark before you make any decisions.

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  • logiclife
    06-28 04:29 PM
    So, what did your lawyer say? Would sure love to know, once you hear back.

    Today, he emailed by HR directly and told them that "we will file everyone's 485 in first week of July ".

    He also said that there is no need to panic because AILA is already threatening USCIS with lawsuit and right now its in negotiations state. (Whatever). He said that the thread from AILA will prevent USCIS from doing the same mischief again in July 2007 to EB2, and EB3 categories. (Somehow I dont buy that, I dont think USCIS is afraid of anyone and they are acting like and independent body ... like the Supreme court working on its own schedule and own whims).

    So the thing is...he acknowledges what happened with EB3-other category in June and says that he will file in July first week (good for me and my other co-workers) but he is still sticking to his guns that "It wont happen because USCIS will be scared of AILA".

    What USCIS has done for EB3-other worker category is violation of federal regulation and it cannot just ignore the visa bulletins because it feels like doing so and its having a bad day. But nonetheless, the people who make these decisions dont get sued. The agency gets sued, and those lawsuits are fought by internal lawyers who are on USCIS payroll. They get some heat for violating the federal regulation but its not like they would lose their shirt over it.

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  • caliducas
    07-13 09:40 AM
    Alright! Back to the US immigration deal! There is still hope and the battle is not over. So I wish you all the best with your cases. Mine has not been rejected/returned yet since my application was delivered on July 3rd. I don't know what will happen, but there is still hope!!!



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  • pointlesswait
    09-23 06:08 PM
    i cant believe ppl think this is a brilliant idea..
    economy is screwed for a while..citizens are on life support..and you want immigrants to be welcomed with open arms..

    you are buying a house. they are to give gc in return for us pumping money into the system which otherwise would not have come in

    its not about their feelings or yours... there is a law and IV is trying to change the law by a legitimate process. do not use words like bribe which refer to improper personal payments for benefits that dont belong.

    the new law should decide that... the discussion is open...

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  • akred
    02-15 11:04 AM
    Although as a business person I look at skill rather then nationality; I do know enough about immigration that there is a good purpose behind country limits. Foreign nationals will prefer their own people for h-1b; they will look for their friends, cousins, brothers, sisters, wives, relatives, etc. and bring their own country people here. Therefore, it is not an "open market" on skill people from all parts of the world. The country quota is the equalizer because of this.

    This argument does not have much merit. You are confusing diversity with skills - if those friends, cousins etc. meet the job requirements, there is no issue in hiring them for open positions. You are asking us to believe that a country that does not believe in affirmative action in the job market and depends on voluntary action by employers to enhance diversity cares about any of this when it comes to immigration.

    No, the intention behind the 7% limit is to protect levels of European immigration and address racist fears of immigration from the 3rd world. This was also the intent behind the diversity lottery - notice the consternation that the diverisity lottery is primarily benefitting non-Europeans.


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  • nrk
    09-15 04:42 PM
    By seeing numbers, i am seeing a ray of hope with in one year i should hear some good news. Thanks for the R&D of all IV members

    Here are my Estimate of pending EB2 India case for give years

    <=2004 2000
    2005 10000
    2006 13000
    2007(july) 5000
    Total 30000

    This number is very close to Ron Gocthers number prediction a few months back (minus sept approvals).

    Collaboration on visa quota data/analysis - Page 6 - Immigration Information Discussion Forum (http://www.immigration-information.com/forums/general-immigration-questions/8419-collaboration-on-visa-quota-data-analysis-6.html)

    Pending as of 15 July 2009 145000
    EB2 50000
    EB3 94000
    EB2India (2.4/3.5 EB2) 35714

    We can use the LCA number and come close these numbers as well

    EB2 India LCA for 2005 = RIR (3000) + PERM (60% of 7290) ~ 7400
    Assuming 20% abandon applicant we get = 5900
    1.2 dependent per applicant give ~ 13000 I-485 applicantions
    Assuming 10% approved in 2008 and 10% rejected/abandon I-485 and 5% cross-charageability we get => pending 10000 pending I-485 application for 2005

    India PERM applications = 18000
    EB2 India PERM applications (60%) = 10800
    Assuming 20% abandon applicant we get = 8640
    1.2 dependent per applicant give ~ 19000 I-485 applicantions
    Assuming 10% approved in 2008 and 10% rejected/abandon I-485 and 10% cross-charageability we get => pending 13000 pending I-485 application for 2006

    So if we see spillover of more than 30K the date will move beyond July 2007.

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  • dealsnet
    09-04 11:28 PM
    He studied in St. John's school and now a anti Christian. CASTIEST DEVIL. See the link.
    Chandrakanth Vemula - LinkedIn (http://www.linkedin.com/in/chandrakanthvemula)
    OK breddy I searched in youtube. I see chandu is from vijayawada. Now I know why he is talking crap on YS Rajashekar Reddy.

    Dude Chandu, you are in 21st century. Forget about all these castism and all. Live peacefully and get your GC. This castism and all doesn't do any good. Chandrababu and Balakrishan will nto give any GC to you. Save your ass, CASTISM will not help any one. I used to think your senior member and good person. I seriously think your an IDIOT unless you stop this castism. STOP this caste based discussions. I know you are not directly talking but I can join the links.

    (BTW, I don't believe in castism, I don't have any caste)


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  • fall2004us
    07-21 01:19 PM
    I have had my own experiences with these stalkers, one time I ran into a guy in Walmart and he asked "are you from south India" blah blah....then he asked me "do you have my phone number", I told him "I just met you and how do u expect me to have ur number".....then he asked my #, I gave him my old land line which was disconnected, he called immediately saying that he is giving his # to me, the call did'nt go through, he asked me why? I told him straight on the face to stop this amway business deals with me, he just ignored and rushed to another aisle.
    As others said, if some desi smiles and talks to you (which is rare) the first thing you think is that he is from amway......:D

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  • venetian
    05-12 02:15 PM
    Tamils in the US too doesn't ask a part of US armed with weapons.

    SL Tamils in Sri Lanka is fighting for their homeland which was unjust fully integrated by the Europeans/British with the Sinhalese majority south, paving way the Sinhalese to discriminate the Tamils in their homeland. SL Tamils are fighting for their homeland and not someone else land.

    Just like the jews, tamils practice their culture and language in sri lanka without been discriminated. You don't see Jews armed with weapons asking for part of USA for themselves.


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  • sumitpendharkar
    06-28 06:08 PM
    Visa Bulletin April 2007
    PD for Other workers category was 01 Oct 2001


    Employment-based: It is likely that the Employment Third Preference �Other Worker� (EW) category will become unavailable beginning in May.

    Both of these issues are the direct result of low annual limits and very heavy demand for numbers, primarily for adjustment of status cases at Citizenship and Immigration Services Offices.

    Visa Bulletin for May 2007
    PD for Other workers category was U (unavailable)


    The Employment Third Preference �Other Worker� category is expected to reach the annual numerical limit during April. As a result, the category will become �Unavailable� beginning in May and will remain so for the remainder of FY-2007.

    Visa Bulletin for June 2007
    PD for Other workers category was 01 Oct 2001


    A few �Other Worker� numbers which had been allocated for April were returned unused at the end of the month. As a result, a very small June allocation has been possible, for applicants with priority dates before October 1, 2001. The category will become �Unavailable� once again beginning in July and will remain so for the remainder of FY-2007.

    So the VB does in fact indicate that there is only a "small June allocation" possible.

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  • vivid_bharti
    09-03 03:15 PM
    It really does not matter if you are a doctor or a compounder... Running a state or a country is a different thing altogether, you need different skills and this man had that. He was a self made man risen from the soil. But on the bad side he was the king of the corrupts. Most of the Indian politicians are Illiterate. This guy is a medical doctor by profession.
    Loved by poor people. Hated by the fundamentalists and Naxals. Most of the AP politicians are corrupt including former PM P.V. N RAO.


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  • sc3
    06-27 07:37 PM
    Christ is god's son! He does not need a Green Card or any other color card :D So what is the point of making it 0?:p

    Please do not spread rumors, can you please point me to the rule that says so? I did not see any Immigration law saying that God's Son doesn't need a Green Card. Christ wasn't born in USA, and neither were his parents US citizens, so his chance of US naturalization comes from a path through Green Card or Asylum. I dont think Christ had a 4 year degree (recognized by USCIS), so he does not qualify for GC based on EB1/2/3 categories. He could claim asylum though religious persecution, but then I am not sure if Christianity was recognized by USCIS during Christ's time :D

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  • vdlrao
    07-21 05:30 PM
    The Family visas spill over is something I couldnt understand. They are retrogressed by > 10 years for many categories. Is that conflicting with spill over? Why would there be spill over with such backlog?

    I havent researched FB category , so apologize if its silly question

    This is due to the limit of 7% per country of available Family Based Visas and 2% for dependent areas.


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  • alkg
    09-23 08:50 PM
    good one

    but............................................... .........................

    after seeing the worst economic conditions, are they really going to distribute GCs to give a ray of hope to this weakened economy........?????????

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  • ganguteli
    06-02 04:05 PM
    It very well depends on the lawyer .

    If he could prove country quota as unconstitutional, which i feel it is.

    But yes IV should talk to a good constitutional lawyer(not immigration), and find the odds,

    And as you said, even if we do not win , we would for sure get some media coverage.

    Why can't you find and talk to a good lawyer and spend your own money on consultation. We will know you are serious about it.


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  • immigrationmatters30
    07-16 08:39 PM
    ThanksGC for the reply,but what if by the time I apply for labor, I enter 6th year and if assuming labor is approved in 6 months, can I use PD from the previous employer to extend beyond 6th year. I am asking because I was under the impression, I cannot extend my H1 if I file labour in 6th year( it has to happen before I reach 6th year).But in my case I have approved labor with PD before I reach 6th year but from different employer.

    In short,Can I apply for one year extention based on my labor PD from different employer even if I file new labor from new employer after entering 6th year.

    I-140 IS NOT PORTABLE. PD is portable.
    You can get 7th year extension to your H1 transfer to caompany B based on your I-140 approval from previous compnay. You have to file new LC and I-140 from your new company and while filing I-140, you port your old PD by providing your old I-140.

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  • hydboy77
    06-04 01:13 PM
    This is what I was also proposing in another thread. we should ask for an administrative fix where once the application is pre adjudicated the applicant should be left alone and not issed any Employment verification letter rfe, or semilar\same job restrictions if they are back logged because of country quota and face multiple year wait, this way atleast it will give people some breating space, the way the system if set up right now, EAD, 485 pre adjudication, I140 approval are all useless if you keep getting Employment verification letter rfe and same semilar job rquirement. Without visa recapure it is going to take atleast 10 years for Eb3 and Eb2 india, in the next 10 years you will keep getting Employement verifivation letter rfe and semilar and same job requirement, there is no way anybody can survive that for 10 yeears. Administrative fix like this can happen without passing a law, for example USCIS started issuing 2 year EAD for retrogressed applicants as an administrative fix. We dont even need a interim green card we can continue on EAD with the administrative fix to exempt cases which have been preadjucated (485) from Employment verification letter RFE and same and semilar job requirement.

    I just used t he term Interim GC to convey the idea, it could be named anything. EAD is a also a partial GC, it gives you rights of a GC holder pending administrative processing of your application - to work with any employer. The interim GC may provide all rights of a GC holder, awaiting final count in the legal register (due to legal need of numeric limitations) and the final card, just like a temporary driver license you get immediately after the road test. The idea is that once this stage is passed, no further questions on employment, etc. should be asked.

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  • eb3_nepa
    06-27 11:40 PM
    Yes. Agreed. But what this means is that if they approve too many cases then they may issue August bulletin with retrogressed dates. And that's fine because they can do that and everyone expects dates to retrogress either in August bulletin or in subsequent bulletin.

    Which portion of the Ombudsman report says that "In the middle of the month for which bulletin is already out there with current dates, they can just stop accepting applications and sort of "REVISE" an already issued bulletin".


    And I am still looking for source of information where in the middle of the month for which a bulletin was already issued in preceding month, USCIS chose to stop accepting petitions and not honor the bulletin issued by DOS with current dates.

    I am seeing a lot of copy-paste from lawyers websites but NONE, I repeat, NONE has a government website URL or any official source.

    Those who still want to believe can choose to believe this. It will make people file on July 1st, if its in their hands. If its in the hands of HR department and company lawyers, it will make them raise their blood pressure until the lawyer sends them an email on July 25th that the Fedex went out today.

    I believe that regardless of what August bulletin shows, July bulletin on DOS website applies to month of July all the way thru July 31st and as long as you file before July 31st, you are fine.

    I made myself look like an idiot by asking such questions to my lawyer, who is already going nuts over the suddenly sky-rocketing workload of 485 petitions. There is another guy who made a fool of himself by asking the lawyer this question.

    And people keep posting new updates and baseless sources to add credence to this baseless rumor. Suit yourself.


    I agree with what you say. However I dont see any evidence on the USCIS/DOS website that says that USCIS/DOS CANNOT change the dates mid-month either. THAT part is worrying me (and everyone).

    07-21 11:33 AM
    More than the money, these guys are plain stalkers! They don't leave you even if you are not interested and even after blindly telling them right on their face. Anywhere you go, Costco, Walmrt, Indian grocery stores, Malls these guys are right behind you. Next time i am calling COPS and i am going to report these guys.

    Enough of leaving it or taking it lightly becasue of so called "your countrymen" stuff.

    what a PITA!

    Because of all these experiences, even when you genuinely smile or strike a conversation with a desi, he/she first suspects you to be an ammway guy. I face it everyday, being "outgoing extrovert" in nature, I tend to smile and talk to people in elevators, walkways, malls, restrooms, groceries etc... which is mostly casual fun stuff and most times desis suspect that I am a ammway guy and cut me out harshly.

    08-28 07:59 AM
    Our frustration with the US legal immigration and retrogression seems endless. My wife and I are considering immigration prospects to Canada. Can somebody please suggest good responsive lawfirms that could handle a Canadian PR application? We would also appreciate some insight on Canadian immigration prospects for physicians. Thanks


    Good luck.