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  • breddy2000
    07-29 01:52 PM
    There are 26 E2 for bombay. Delhi data was for July. Assumption will be around 100 for CP for whole of India.

    Are we not supposed to count dependents with the applications? Or does it mean each individual is treated seperately irrespective of being depenedent in CP?

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  • amitjoey
    01-13 12:27 PM
    I wish- Logiclife would answer this thread. He has a way to explain things and put things in perspective. He is very direct and I like that.

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  • vdlrao
    09-15 02:42 AM
    Year, TOT_LBRS, Certified, LBR_INDIA PD_>_10/1/2001
    2000 074048 70204 ????? 0
    2001 082139 77921 ????? 0
    2002 089168 79784 ????? 7873
    2003 095299 62912 ????? 25956
    2004 098866 43582 ????? 26569
    2005 014253 06133 01350 6133
    2006 105960 79782 22298 79782
    2007 098753 85112 24573 85112
    2008 061997 21092 07198 21092
    Total 720483 526522 55419 252517


    In 2005 there are a total of 01350 labors certified only for India.
    In 2006 there are a total of 22298 labors certified only for India.

    The other important thing here to note down is there are many outsourcing companies out there filed/filing GCs for their so called managers in EB1 category.

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  • mmanurker
    03-29 03:10 PM
    US just elected a President who father and step father are Muslims. And that is great and the world appreciates that because it shows that this country can judge a person by his skills or character and not get stuck in bigoted views about muslims or other minorities. And we love this country for that

    But when it comes to India, don't you think of voting for Rahul gandhi because he might have some blood of either a parsi or ('god forbid') muslim in him. That certainly should dis qualify him, shouldn't it. Nepotism is certainly bad but this takes the cake. Dont vote for him because he might be 10% parsi/muslim (I am sure you have not forgotten about the italian heritage but you can raise that later). But certainly criminals and perpetrators of Genocide would be desirable PM choices. Rock on

    you just proved how ignorant you are, coz US president's biological father is not a muslim.....His father is born in a christian family but was raised by a their neighbor who happened to be a Muslim family. His father never converted to Islam neither the family who raised his father tried to convert him but yes his father did adopt this Muslim family's name hence we see Hussain as his middle name.


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  • bazuka6
    06-13 09:12 PM
    Don't think of it as punishment. The US wants to allow a certain number of people to immigrate each year. The demand far outstrips the supply. That's where the problem is.

    There are two ways to address this:

    Increase the supply
    Decrease the demand

    Those are the only two ways. One option would be to go for a points based system that awards the limited visas to those with the best qualifications or where the need is greatest. After all the US is in a "buyer's market" and can pick and choose those immigrants that add most to the country.

    The other option (which is at present politically infeasible) is to increase the annual immigrant quotas. Tough to support this in a recession with 10% unemployment.

    I'm not sure you can characterize this as unfair... ultimately it is left to the US to determine how many people they want immigrating.

    so what are the ones that fall below on points supposed to do ? pack and leave after 10 plus years of being here ?

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  • mundada
    12-13 02:00 PM
    I think you have made a great argument. The original intention of diversity quota was to prevent people from certain European countries from becoming a dominant race in the US in 1920s.

    However, the Civil Rights Act that protects national origin came into effect in 1964.

    I am not a lawyer but have been taking business law course. I therefore believe if national origin discrimination is not allowed in the employment then unusually high (5 years) green card delays for certain nationalities is promoting national origin discrimination by detering employers from hiring people born in certain countries.

    I think this argument will fly. I am not sure family based restrictions could be lifted but national origin quota restriction on employment and national origin non-discrimination in employment are definitely contradicting each other.


    TITLE VII of the 1964 CIVIL RIGHTS ACT (1964)
    The protected classes: race, color, sex, religion & national origin. Employers with 15 or more employees. The most well known employment discrimination statute. Prohibits employment discrimination against the protected classes - race, color, sex, religion & national origin – in every aspect of employment, i.e. hiring, firing, promotion, training, working conditions, compensation, etc.

    Hello All,

    First and foremost, i must thank everyone from IV, who is working tirelessly to resolve the issues of retrogression in the GC process. As an affected individual I am very grateful that leaders of IV are ready to contribute so much effort for its goals. And even though I do not actively work for the IV agenda, I have contributed money to some IV action items.

    I have a question/suggestion regarding the IV agenda. On IV's about page, pt number 2 asserts amongst other things,
    The Discriminatory Per-Country Rationing of Green Cards That Exacerbates the Delays.

    and further in the same point

    We do not allow employers to discriminate hiring based on their nationality or country of origin. Therefore, the employment-based immigration, which is a derivative benefit of employment, should also be free from rationing based on nationality or country of birth.

    I am curious to know what is the "legal" strength of these assertions is. Are they just "moral" statements or can the validity of these statements be tested in the legal framework of this country? In other words, my question is what is the constitutionality of the "Per Country Caps" in Employment / Family Based Immrigration procedures.
    A lot of Laws and Statutes have been challenged in the Judicial System of USA. And many more are challenged every year. And if the laws are not constitutional then they can be repealed.

    I am sure the leaders of IV must have thought about this argument however a quick search of the forums with 'constitutionality' as the search term did not return any results.

    IV's efforts to utilize Lobbying to bring about change to alleviate/eliminate retrogression are certainly beneficial. However, if IV has not already considered and eliminated this legal argument, then it should explore whether there is any substance to this approach.

    Hence this post. Below are some of the links that might be relevant.

    wikipedia article on constitutionality (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutionality)
    wikipedia category on US immigration case law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:United_States_immigration_and_naturalizat ion_case_law)

    thanks and sincerely,



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  • la6470
    01-15 06:05 PM
    Yes in my opinion also companies like Infosys, TCS, CTS or HCL - all of them have abused the L1/B1 visa program. At least with H1B the benificiary gets a shot at the "american dream". However with L1 visas - it is pure high tech slave labour. The L1 visa holders are dumped in client places all over the USA and they are paid even lower wages than their H1B counterparts and on top of that the L1 visa absolutely prohibits the visa holder from changing employers. The typical lifcycle of a L1 visa holder is to come to USA, learn from their US counterparts, co-ordinate between the US client and the offshore team back in India, save as much money as possible to pay off for the 2 bed room apartment or car back in India and then at the end of six months , beg their employers for a new project in USA. And during all this time they have to keep up a brave face - saying they dont really "like to stay in USA". Talk about "grapes being sour".

    However these companies typically are financially in a much better position and have stronger lobbies than small time desi bodyshoppers sponsoring H1 candidates - so USCIS haven't really got the guts to look into their activities as compared to desi bodyshops.

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  • GetGC08
    07-28 05:07 PM
    Relax and send all the documents requested by the USCIS. They might ask you for additional documents later based on what they receive from you or may approve your case.

    Thanks a lot for your reply.

    I had completed my BSc in computer science with 3 years & also completed my Masters(MCA) in computer science with 3 years.(both from India)

    Total I have 6 years(3 yrs bachelors + 3 yrs masters) of education/qualification in Computer Science.

    My labor has been approved & in that it is mentioned, position requires Masters degree.

    Do I qualify for EB2 category?
    I already filled I-140 in March 2008 under EB2.

    I will really appreciate your response.



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  • snthampi
    07-28 08:19 PM
    Wait a min , how much had you?? Your status is Member and Kaushal's is a Donor.. wait a min let me think who is donating and who is a FREELOADER here.

    The guy is doing something to make his life better, atleast making an attempt to do something better, why do you losers are trying to demotivate and shoot him down.

    No work is small or big , good or bad , work is work.. you wanna do it , just do it , else walk to out. Do not exhibit the desi attitude "I won't do it as what someone will say and also do not let any one else do it." Grow up.

    No one is telling him or you what to do or not with your life. People are just saying that don't bother us with your trash. Do you get it?

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  • JunRN
    09-23 03:26 PM
    Judiciary committee is busy talking about horses...instead of houses....maybe we should say we will buy horses instead if they give greencard...

    just kiddin'


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  • Lasantha
    12-14 05:29 PM
    Yes, now that does look fair to me.

    Even if we raise the limit to XYZ from 140000, if we still continue with 7% quota then applicants from India/China/Philippines/Mexico would still be retrogressed. It is not correct.
    Let everybody have a go at GC and let it be FIFO, irrespective of the nationality. This is EB and why use diversity if we do not use at the initial stages of bringing people from other countries on H1/J1/L1. These are the people who apply for GC.
    1) Increase GC numbers.
    2) remove per country cap
    3) Remove dependents from GC numbers.

    All above should go in simultaneously for a 'FAIR', 'NON_DISCRIMINATIVE' solution.

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  • eager_immi
    07-12 10:20 AM
    I think this all depends on individual application. I got a letter stating "no further documents were needed." I did not submit any TOEFL scores. I just sent them a letter detailing that my husband and I work for Fortune 500 and have been in the US for over 10 years. I also stated that my daily work includes interacting with high level executives, c-suite folks all the time. My work entails writing reports, issuing memorandums etc. My letter from employer also stated that my ability to communicate in English is equivalent to a native speaker. But I know sometimes it does not work it all depends on the individual who is accessing your case. Just one pointer make sure the letter is well written, free of grammatical errors, and you have spent several hours editing and re-editing it. I have seen lots of posts where people have uploaded the letter they sent to the embassy, but the English was very poor.

    They asked me to submit IELTS test results inspite of submitting TOEFL score (108/120) and english proficiency letter.


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  • go_guy123
    08-17 12:22 PM
    Maybe Indians don't have balls, but there is something called cultural exchange which every country share with each another. Now if SRK decides that US immigration has mistreated him and he decides not to enter US, world is not going to fall down. Recently I heard that HOLLYWOOD wants to come BOLLYWOOD to make investments, maybe out of bussiness sense HOLLYWOOD should support SRK. Big B recently refused doctorate from Aussie university in support of Indian students mistreated in Australia. Maybe Indians don't have balls but they have brains.

    Yes, actually needs to go to US as well for shooting. The main reason is that
    Shahrukh khan takes the foreign distribution rights as compensation so that his
    foreign income is tax free and keeps his Indian income in rupees lower (taxable).

    One of the reason why he makes movies with storyline outside India and US being a big market he needs to go.
    So as protest like Amitabh he should change his compensation structure so that he doesn't need movies with story line in US etc. Will he do it ?I dont think so !!!!!

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  • srkamath
    07-25 09:46 PM
    It is really simple.....

    Vertical Spillover

    EB2 (IN) ~ 12000 / year
    EB3 (IN) ~ 18000 / year

    Horizontal Spillover

    EB2 (IN) > 18000 / year
    EB3 (IN) < 12000 / year

    On another note.

    There is possibly an ongoing effort by some powerful people to compel "attrition by frustration" among all prospective immigrants. This Xenophobic philosophy will last till Jan2009, it will then subside.

    It is just like high oil prices - make hay while........

    Have faith in America, history shows it rights itself sooner rather than later.


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  • nixstor
    07-03 04:24 PM
    Any other way you can get in touch with her... phone??

    I already tried. Looks like she is gone for the holiday. Call 202 513 2000 and by pressing the numbers on the phone you can get to her VM as of now.

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  • nixstor
    07-03 04:24 PM
    Any other way you can get in touch with her... phone??

    I already tried. Looks like she is gone for the holiday. Call 202 513 2000 and by pressing the numbers on the phone you can get to her VM as of now.


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  • Marphad
    05-19 10:06 AM
    Illusions, Thanks Bro!!

    Marphad, I have posted less than 20 posts in this forum and I have never posted anything anti-immigrant. The most number of posts I have ever posted was in this thread.

    And that was because I saw some people posting misleading information about the Sri Lankan war and I wanted everyone to see at least what I consider to be the real situation. I can't help it if people have trouble listening to different opinions and different sides of the story but this is a public forum and I have the freedom to post what I feel as long as I don't cross the line.

    In any case, I am too happy today to be wasting my time on petty stuff like these.

    Hasta la vista Baby!!!! :D

    Would you consider updating your profile please!

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  • Desichakit
    07-17 12:33 PM
    As per USCIS VISA Bulletin of July 2008. If there is spillover from EB2 to EB3 the it will benefit EB3 India as Visas have to be allocated to more retrogessed country first. Even if that is not that case and numbers are evenly spread even then EB3 India stands to be at advantage. I think EB3 India will benefit from this intrepretation eventually.

    EB2 India 2008

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  • pitha
    09-25 02:16 PM
    Unless IV request DOS for a quarterly spillover DOS would not do it. All the good things that happenned in the last 2 years were because of IV involvement starting with the July Fiasco when USCIS accepted 485 applications, I am sure the report published by USCIS about the pending 485 was done because of the FOIA filed by IV.

    A quarterly spill over is advantageous to every body in the playing field.

    It is obviously good for retrogressed groups. It is even good for CIS, since they can plan their work properly and use up the visas in an orderly fashion.

    So if IV can use some of its massive clout to convince DOS to do a quarterly spill over, that would be win-win for all.

    06-12 10:06 PM
    So you realized at the age of 35 that you needed MBA? Many smarter ones realized that at 25-30 age range. And they are the ones who will become future CEOs.

    Another thing, I would question is your judgement to leave Microsoft. That was the best company in your days, although now its Google. I still think Microsoft is number 2 employer with the kind of benefits and stability they provide. Hello ...... they had first layoffs in 2009 and that too only 5000. My wife works there and I have told her to put in many years there even before she considers a change. Why did you leave them man? You asked for all your present day troubles due to this decision.

    Now you are saying , L1s will dump low cost MBAs. Do you know the value of IIMA? First qualify for the college and get a admission and then say it is low cost education. You are not even trying for that college, coz you know you wont get in. Now you can get 1 yr PGPX MBA in IIM-A for 20 lakh Rs (USD 40K), but I bet the quality of graduates is better than your 100K MBA. Before dismissing them as low cost, do some introspection of talent.

    My friend did MBA from IIM-B, he is a top performer, today he is a managing partner in Wipro consulting. No doubt he started like me at 60K salary in US, but look at his performance and rise. I respect him a lot. He doesnt have GC yet. I have tons of friends from Whartons, Kellogs, UChicago , IIM-A etc. The college I respect most is IIM-A.

    So before dismissing them as low cost, first try to get in there, qualify, refuse admission and then dismiss them as low cost. You are paying 100K for MBA is because you did not qualify for low cost MBA.

    05-03 01:21 AM
    in this thread... last 1o posts are about newtoearth...

    people will take peosonally and call names when they can't argue with facts...

    if you can talk on the issue lets discuss else (I know this is what you want when you know that you don't have any facts to support you...)
    What is relationship to my ID and Attack on Indian Army by Eelam Guys, Real Stupid ...
    ... I have been so non popular only aravas browsing the thread...

    Hey you know what..
    There are many Indian Languages top of you in population in India or in rest of the world
    all of the above comminities are living all over the world.. But no one made any noise...
    Now you think.. where the problem is .. Every body mingled with locals...
    But if any one sees Singapore, Malasia, or SL. you know ...
    I am out of this disscussion if some one is talking it personally

    What about Hindi guys are kicked out in asam and Mumbai. Malasiya, Singapore and SL have tamil population and thats why the noise is.

    Basically you are a singala guy in this forum for long time and created this id to today to fight with tamils. Because no other indian guy will call tamil as arava...In fact we hear it for the first time and no one knows or cares what it means.