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  • vkrishn
    07-27 06:55 PM
    Absolutely. To amway guys:- No means NO/NOT INTERESTED.. PERIOD.. I don't care whether you were flipping burgers or dream to become a millionaire. Do it yourself . Just don't harass people. Next time you will be arrested if you harass people.

    This whole conversation was not intended to be personal and if it hurt you in any way then we all apologize ,most of the people here might be in or against amway/quixter but they are all more pissed of by the way they are harassed by so called IBO's with the way they treat their prospective clients.
    Why not just move on if somebody says no or gives a excuse to the IBO's, if anybody does
    really feel interested they will ultimately come back to you guys but why harass them with multiple calls and personal visits.

    Note - I would be intersted to see your tax returns :-) email me please since you agreed to.

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  • thakurrajiv
    06-27 07:42 AM
    I don't know how much to trust these sources. I am very nervous though.
    I understand that the visa number is reduced once 485 is approved. But rememeber that in 2005 dates were current and thousands of applications got filed.Most of the applications were pre-adjusted and just need number to be assigned.So in July, there is possibility that many applications can get approved and they can get approved fast !!
    I am in the same boat as everyone else. Just wanted to share my worries.

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  • dilipcr
    06-16 02:15 PM
    I agree with you. This guy applied his GC in 2001 and got it in 2003. In just 2 years. He made a stupid decision to leave MSFT and then lost 3 jobs in a short span. He is some nut mental case who is happy seeing others getting screwed. Maybe he works his way up by pushing others down.

    I dont understand as to why you are so enamoured about MSFT ? Is leaving MSFT a stupid decision ? Why do you jump to conclusions in a public forum without understanding the facts behind a decision ? Let me give you some facts about MSFT and my decision to leave. Draw your conclusions accordingly. As a techie, atleast then, MSFT was among the top notch companies to work for. The work was satisfying and not to mention the pay was rewarding too (atleast in 1994). Back then MSFT's core cash cow products were MS Office and Windows. That is the case even today. MS Office's 2000 release and Windows NT releases were path breakers. In my opinion, if you are in any group other than these 2 groups within MSFT, I dont think the work is truly satisfying. If your concern is a stable paycheck then ignore my opinion.

    Back in late 2000, the labor queue in WA, CA, NY and TX states was way too huge and the processing times were long. I surveyed the land for labor certification times and chose to move to MN or IA inorder to get thru this process faster. I chose a dot com company in MN and my labor and I140 flew fast before the 9/11 disaster struck. Oh BTW I was millionaire "on paper" for about 28 days :-). You may think that I went thru the entire GC for just 2 years. You need to check with people who had been GC during that time of the times we were in. In those days, in the immediate aftermath of 9/11, every immigrant in the midwest was scorned with hatred. Google immigrant tales and you will know. I had planned hard, gave up a stable paycheck and went thru 3 layoffs to get my GC. I believe that the long queues atleast in labor and I140 are due to a large number of people applying from NY and CA. I hope you would realize that people think through issues before making decisions. If you have not done the same dont scoff at people who do so.

    One last tid bit - MSFT is not the greatest of organizations that you think it is. As I said, if a stable paycheck is all you care for then you are right. If you are looking for real exciting action on the prfessional front, just in my humble opinion, think Hedge funds.

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  • mbawa2574
    02-16 12:14 PM
    dear Bestia, I don't recall anyone calling the situation you described racism. I for one said it's human nature's favorism and, like it or not, it does jeopordize diversity, so you will have a hard time convincing US to let go something it wants for the sake of something else just because it's better for you.
    Please note that I did not start this discussion and I hate it as much as you, but the ones who started it did so by repeatedly saying that the disproportionate indian chinese lines here are mainly because they are 1- better and brighter than the rest of us 2- more marketable than us 3- more educated than us 4- all of the above
    can't you see the blatant racism in these explanations and my right as an ROW to be offended by them? I never intended to run down the indians and chinese when i say that no these are not the reasons, we all have equal skills and that the real reasons are the higher population of india and china and the skewed methods of bodyshops..
    i'll stop responding to the other idiot who has nothing but insults and conspiracy theories instead of real arguments, someone doesn't realize that 90% of IV members did not attend the rally, yes throw that in their faces and ask them to leave whenever you run out of idiotic arguments. really pathetic!
    You are a racist b* who just thinks about yourself and you have been planted here by other camp. U must have come out of some gutter country where democracy has no meaning and you don't know meaning of majority. You are favoring an agenda because it is good for you today. get the hell of this website. You don't belong here you racist bigot. May be we will need to track your ip address and throw you from here at some point of time.You hate Indians and Chinese and come back to IV where we have majority. This is not going to happen.


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  • Michael chertoff
    07-17 08:43 AM
    Please do not force the Immigration lawyer to answer your question IV has left it to the lawyer to answer questions they want to. This is a free service for IV members. We are grateful to the lawyer for this help.

    I am sorry pappu.


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  • senthil1
    03-16 01:24 PM
    It depends on INS. If they notice the overlap between study and experience and they can send RFE. If you send explanation to RFE then it is upto INS to accept or reject. If thy doo not notice then no problem.Some people in INS have some idea about fake experience certificates in India. It is easy to get experience certificate even if you do not work. You can get idea by analysing similar situation.

    QUOTE=Subst_labor]i am not paying anything, its a decent company from NJ. the only thing i am concerned about is that this experience was when i was IN college and it was a really small company (part time thing..)[/QUOTE]


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  • snathan
    03-30 10:48 AM

    Please do understand MMS brought economic reforms when he was finance minister in P.V Narasimha Rao's govt.People thought country would see the same in 2004 when MMS was made PM. But Sonia Gandhi didn't give him that freedom.We didn't see any reforms in these 5 years.

    Opting for MMS is like saying I won't take Sonia/Rahul but would take them if they came with a wrapper called MMS. That's what MMS is.

    All those voting for MMS in the poll might as well vote for Rahul if you are bent on only congress party for communal/other reasons of your own.

    MMS is not even fighting these elections.As per congress party sources Sonia doesn't want to announce Rahul as PM candidate because if congress loses then Rahul has to take the blaim(which will affect his charisma..huh our leaders run not qualifications but charisma and even urban/rural people fall for that).If congress wins MMS will be replaced with Rahul citing health or some other issue within no time.
    I can understand rural masses but educated skilled people falling for the tactics of unskilled Sonia is something.No wonder she is going great.

    I believe there were some junkies called Left were holding the Govt and MMS as hostages.... Thats why there is no reform...

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  • dreamworld
    05-02 01:12 AM
    Guys Peace..

    Every freedom fighter is a terrorist first. We can get this from history. Do you know who killed
    mahatma? Why? We can make a different argument. But there are differences between freedom fighters. But the ultimate goal is getting real freedom to the civilians who are fellow souls suffering from all kinds of issues from majority rulers.

    Not a single way to solve our immigration issue here in USA and not just ImmigrationVoice is fighting. It applies to any freedom struggle. There are many different freedom fighters fight for the same people for the same case.

    Guys look at Srilanka Tamil as Native Tamils from Srilanka and look what was done to them in the last 50 years from the beginning of Srilanka independence from British. Know the history and then make your point.

    There is a large humanitarian crisis for Srilanka Tamil in northern Srilanka after the Srilanka military invasion and world is ignoring it.

    I know nothing can be brought by killing people but only by peace and democratic and diplomatic approach can bring peace. Peace and Pray for all fallen freedom fighters in the world. Peace and NO WAR.


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  • qualified_trash
    11-09 12:53 PM
    Well said. These kind of feelings are general for human beings. But thinking and worrying about any problem is not going to fetch you anything. If anyone has problem, then they have to start thinking about a solution. This is help them to overcome the the real problem. Thinking and worrying about it will make the problem wrost.

    Every human being is having two virtual circles in his entire life. The inner circle is circle of influence on which you have full control and outer one is circle of concern on which you dont have any control. You cannot change the weather(outer circle). Worrying about how cold or hot is not going to help you, but you can wear adequate clothing(inner circle with your control) to over come it.

    So think what you can do with what you have in your control. This will bring peace and happiness in your life and eventually will enable you to overcome big issues in simple way.

    Ok now for BASHERS: IF YOU DONT LIKE, PLS IGNORE IT. I should add this in my signature.

    from the 7 habits by covey.......... nice!!


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  • pmat
    05-09 03:46 PM
    Thanks for your answers, dan19. I have started the process by requesting FBI police clearances... I hope that I will get Canadian PR by end of next year if I apply by June 07.

    I have decided to enroll in a full-time MBA program by Fall 2009... In US, it is tedious if I don't get a GC. Even if I change to F1 status, getting H1 after that will be an uphill battle. Univ of Toronto seems to be a better option in this scenario.

    Dont worry, just foolow intructions on cic.ga.ca and you will be fine.
    If you miss any document, they will send all ur paperwork back. If they accept it they will send a letter with a Tracking/case number.

    Its much better and streamlined for people who reside in US. Just apply, lets all go to Canada..I think thats what US of A wants and deserves.


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  • mirage
    04-02 08:04 AM
    Here's what Dalal Street biggies think


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  • mbawa2574
    05-28 11:10 PM
    When some of us raised the issue of project managers from Indian IT companies applying under EB1 and using up those visas which would trickle over to EB2 and EB3, we were scoffed at. Some even questioned as to why these people cannot apply under "Multi-national executive" category, as they are "Multi-national" managers.
    These guys misrepresent the number of people reporting to them (same managers in the same portfolio uses the same number of people to show in the application as reporting to them. This is true "reuse"), also "reuse" the portfolio value (how can 3-4 managers from the same client account be responsible for x million dollar business) and crooked company attorneys make up a stellar resume and case to file for them. The attorney pay comes from the employee's pocket.
    Otherwise how would you explain the sudden rise in EB1 filings and a quota which never used to be over in previous years suddenly has cut-off dates.
    If we keep quiet, these same clowns will use up all the visas and smirk at us for filing in the "lower" categories. What a backdoor to a green card! :mad:

    This fraud has to stop. There is nothing called as MNC manager. These are basically sweat shop slave supervisors. None of these clowns make a 6 figure salary and can match the skills of people in EB2 & EB3 category.


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  • snathan
    03-30 05:47 PM
    In my opinion MMS may be a nice person and may be a good economist, but it wasn't him who was running the govt. and it will not be him if he comes back again. It is a very common practice in India, a chemist will run a chemist shop but the License is in somebody else's name. Here also same thing happened, you saw Manmohan Singh on PM's chair, but it was somebody else who was running the show, and it is deception & dishonesty to your voters. I always see a "Culprit" in his eyes, which is either hiding something or is guilty. Observe him on TV, he's mostly not making too much eye contact, he know he is guilty of deception....
    He also headed one of the most corrupt & criminal cabinets in the history of India. People like Taslimuddin, Shibu Soren , Jagdish Tytler, Lalu had several criminal cases against them. On the contary you may not personally Like LK Advani, It's not just him who's going to rule the country if he comes to power. It'll be the whole cabinet, most what was during Vajpayee govt. which was much cleaner & much more agressive on developmental issues, they worked on certain agendas, lot of places where you see growth, were actually the good work done by the NDA govt. You may praise Laloo for all the Railway turn around, but the reality is the foundation was layed by then Railway Minister "Nitish Kumar", AI/AI became profitable under "Rajiv Pratap Rudy" . There were people like "Suresh Prabhu", "Yashwant Sinha", "Arun Shourie", all of them did tremendous Jobs in their cabinet.

    Can you tell me how many politician making eye contact in India.

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    07-24 04:29 PM
    Its not the question of economy alone. When deciding to go back. Its a question about convenience.

    a) I don't want to stand in line to pay my Electric/Telephone/House Tax/Income Tax/Train Ticket/Air Ticket/Bus Ticket/Children Admission-donations/Petrol Line/LP Gas Line/Restaurant Line/Chola Bhatura Line/Samosa Line/RTO Office line/Registration line/License Line/Stock Buy line/Stock Sell Line/Bank Deposit Line/Bank Draft Line/Fixed Deposit Line/Kisaan Vikas Patra Line/Registered/Speed post Line/Blue Dart Line/Company registration line/College admission line/College fee line/University degree line/Interview Line/Booking a Car line/Beer Whisky Line/Canteen Line.

    Half the country stands in line, the other half manages the line. Neither has any civic sense.

    b) I don't want to bribe babus who manage above lines to get ahead in line.

    d) I don't want power failures/cooler failures/ac failures/broken roads/or other catastrophic system failures.

    e) I dont want fake or mixed eating oil / flour / milk / cheese / butter / peppers / lentils / rice

    f) I don't want dangerous chemical fertilizers in my produce (slow killers - massive kidney failure rate in India for past 10 years)

    g) I don't want to teach my children dishonesty and tricks of survival/street smartness (in ref to corruption in India) which don't add any value to their personality.

    h) The only reason I would wanna go back is for my immediate family and friends. Thats the only thing I miss when it comes to India.

    I wouldn't go back and I believe even MK Gandhi himself would'nt leave from Africa for India in todays times.

    Also Its the enemy within (corruption) which can cause great harm and we have that kind of enemy now. You can never ever change the attitudes which people carry in India without another revolution.

    I am sure I can come up with a huge list of positives too, They will sound very good and will give me a great feeling of fake National Pride.

    Now go ahead and kill me for saying all the above.!!


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  • software7
    05-31 07:06 PM
    this pending I485 applications include dependents

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  • saileshdude
    05-29 01:03 PM
    Not just limited to Cognizant and some Big 3s(or 2s now).
    Please do not dismiss this as a tunnel vision, its a reality that will develop into a panoramic scam. I know of a guy in India who is sowing seeds of multi-national manager with a Staffing firm(Desi consulting Co) just for this purpose. Worst he has an individual contributor job with some other company that is in collusion with the staffing firm here to prove he works for the company here( I am guessing as a consultant and taxation with a ghost company of US based company in India). I could not get him to spill the beans on how this whole thing is working but he is confident and has sunk a lot of money into it. Strangely, he was disappointed when I told him even with L1A/EB1 it could take 18 to 24 months. Talk about feeling entitled.

    Mind you lot of these guys have registered companies in India already to fish for H1 applicants. We close our eyes on this one, it will break the levees and flood the EB immigration. SO never be coy in dismissing this travesty and mother of all scams that is going to follow.

    I agree. These so called extraordinary EB1 clowns need to get a taste of waiting and suffering period that many others here. I have no problem with a qualified EB1 candidate getting it but EB1 are for extraordinary ability people who really deserve it.

    IT project managers are not the deserving candidate.


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  • amoljak
    10-24 10:17 AM
    Ok got it thanks Amoljak

    So then that is the only way one can SELL you an approved LC?

    Yes... other than some rare outright frauds who make counterfeit LCs etc. But they always get caught, because their scams are so stupid...

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  • pmpforgc
    03-29 06:34 PM
    Thank you for your personal opinion. India was doing well when Vajpayee was PM. He is not some management honcho. It is a vision of the person that is more important. Manmohan is a learned man and has provided country with real good service but real power rests with Sonia and her son Rahul.

    Hence. Its a question of ideology in the long run and given my background, BJP govt suits me better than Congress. So I prefer Advani over Sonia.


    I mostly agree with you about Bajpai and Sonia. Bajpai is really a visionary and was good for India.

    But we are not talking about Bajpai any more, We are talking baout Advani. He is not Bajpau and he is not visonary like Bajpai he is only Taksadhuu like all other politicians.

    I would surely prefer MODI, MANMOHAN, Chidambaram even LALU compare to ADVANI to manage India as Priminister.

    We are talking about Who should be Priminister of India, not which party should rule.

    So try to be more specific when you reply next time.

    I dont go by Party, even in BJP in Gujarat Keshubahi was Worst CM for state where as Modi from Same party is really good. so we should look at who will manage country in the end. I agree that Bajpai and Manmohan has done good job. But not Advani he should be even next to Mayawati in line to be PM !!

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  • JazzByTheBay
    12-13 04:34 PM
    If someone from country X, Y, or Z comes in on that same quota, that's OK - but we can't accept folks from countries A, B and C??


    Let's assume that it can not be fought within US Constitutional framework then do we have a choice to bring this to international court level? Can US prove that keeping per country immigration quota for EB categories is not a discrimination but a policy to protect its citizens or per say to protect its industry/economy?

    01-14 07:15 AM
    The best thing an individual can do is look for a full time job and not worry about things not in his control. I cannot imagine that they will cancel existing visas, so those who have time on their visas left are probably safe.....for now.

    If they are going to phase out of IT contractors from H1B visas by denying all new extensions or new visas, then they will be positions that need to be filled. While they might be a lot of unemployed American programmers they might lack the skills the newest technologies.

    Other than that, this could be a great opportunity for Indian companies as large IT implementations might be completely outsourced now; if companies are unable to staff their projects with H1Bs here.

    05-29 03:20 PM
    hi friends,

    My suggestion is as follows : Let USCIS issue GC for primary applicants without considering PD :) and, issue GC to family members as per PD.

    Anyhow getting GC for primary applicant is important then dependent or let them consider whole family as single case instead of considering each family member as single.