amsgc
12-19 07:40 PM
PD and EBI/II/III shlould be ad to the above list.
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sweet_jungle
02-12 11:39 AM
huge move for EB3 ROw. it was expected I think.
hopefulgc
02-14 08:10 PM
thats bull.... disclosure is not requored.... my dog is a member of six professional canine associations ... does he have to bark it all up.
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Yes, I guess so. If the drink raw milk club is a registered orginization.
Disclosure : I am not a lawyer, please check with your legal ......no just save that money for a rainy day
:)
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Yes, I guess so. If the drink raw milk club is a registered orginization.
Disclosure : I am not a lawyer, please check with your legal ......no just save that money for a rainy day
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Legal
07-25 06:36 PM
Yeah Ron Gotcher is speculating, but there is some credibility to what he is saying. He did predict the rapid movement of PDs toward the end of the year, in fact at one point he was extremely optimistic more than what happened to date. So he did have some insight into the inner workings (or rather non-workings!) of the USCIS. He also openly shared his interaction with Charlie Oppenheim.
This is why people should not get so excited now. What EB2I got is a little hope, for most it will be false hope, a select few have green hope, but we will only know them by Sept. in retrospect.
For the rest of us it will be back to the drawing board, oops message board. My feeling is things are likely to be somewhere between the extremely pessimistic projections of Ron Gotcher and the extremely optimistic projections of VLRao.
I suspect the PD will move back to the April 2004 cutoff and then move forward slowly as spillover allows, so in other words at a rate faster than in the past. I stand by my view that we will need most of next year and perhaps some of 2010 spillover to quench the thirst of EB2I and C.
I don't think the point Ron made that if everything was current it would take 5 plus years for USCIS to clear the back log is correct. If it really is the case then we are more badly screwed than any of us realise and it goes totally against the statistics the USCIS has been leaking about the number of pending cases. Which many of us have number crunched already.
The argument that EB2-1 PD will retrogress to 2002 or 2004 does not seem to be based on numbers, but a random speculation. Doesn't not undermine vdlrao's projections in a credible way
Spillover may not be there, or may be there but when the new quota opens up October 1st, new minimum numbers will be available for EB2-I. Worst case scenario, dates will remain static or very minimal backward movement. It looks like the black hole is the time between late 2004 and early 2005, pre-PERM.Other than saying there is massive inventory of backlogged cases, Ron has not given better/ actual numbers of likely pending EB-2 I cases.
This is why people should not get so excited now. What EB2I got is a little hope, for most it will be false hope, a select few have green hope, but we will only know them by Sept. in retrospect.
For the rest of us it will be back to the drawing board, oops message board. My feeling is things are likely to be somewhere between the extremely pessimistic projections of Ron Gotcher and the extremely optimistic projections of VLRao.
I suspect the PD will move back to the April 2004 cutoff and then move forward slowly as spillover allows, so in other words at a rate faster than in the past. I stand by my view that we will need most of next year and perhaps some of 2010 spillover to quench the thirst of EB2I and C.
I don't think the point Ron made that if everything was current it would take 5 plus years for USCIS to clear the back log is correct. If it really is the case then we are more badly screwed than any of us realise and it goes totally against the statistics the USCIS has been leaking about the number of pending cases. Which many of us have number crunched already.
The argument that EB2-1 PD will retrogress to 2002 or 2004 does not seem to be based on numbers, but a random speculation. Doesn't not undermine vdlrao's projections in a credible way
Spillover may not be there, or may be there but when the new quota opens up October 1st, new minimum numbers will be available for EB2-I. Worst case scenario, dates will remain static or very minimal backward movement. It looks like the black hole is the time between late 2004 and early 2005, pre-PERM.Other than saying there is massive inventory of backlogged cases, Ron has not given better/ actual numbers of likely pending EB-2 I cases.
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msp1976
02-13 03:30 PM
Originally; I had interpreted the paragraph to mean if the total visas by category i.e, total visas in eb1 are unused then a country can go over 7% limit in that category (horiziontal spillover).
However; the law is determining total as total visas for all EB categories as a whole. Therefore, there has to be unused visas from the 140,000 for a country to go over 7%.
I interpreted that as allowing a country to go over the overall 7% limit in the total EB categories.....Which conforms to what USCIS did in 2005....USCIS allowed much larger than 7% from India that year...and they were within law...( Of course that can be litigated against if someone raises an objection ......)
So if my interpretation applies and after reform there are 290K total visas available then there is a decent chance of EB2/EB3 India China to at least come to 2005 PD levels if not current...
However; the law is determining total as total visas for all EB categories as a whole. Therefore, there has to be unused visas from the 140,000 for a country to go over 7%.
I interpreted that as allowing a country to go over the overall 7% limit in the total EB categories.....Which conforms to what USCIS did in 2005....USCIS allowed much larger than 7% from India that year...and they were within law...( Of course that can be litigated against if someone raises an objection ......)
So if my interpretation applies and after reform there are 290K total visas available then there is a decent chance of EB2/EB3 India China to at least come to 2005 PD levels if not current...
delax
07-24 09:23 PM
If this is indeed true, isn't it unfair to issue visas to Feb 2006 dates at a Consulate while people with 2005 dates are waiting for AOS. Can this be challenged in court?
Everything is fair in love and war and Immigration my friend! Cheers.
Everything is fair in love and war and Immigration my friend! Cheers.
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jatinr
07-15 06:40 PM
:confused:My 485 was filed with me as Primary and my wife as derivative in July 2007 with PD of Nov'05 2003. My I-140 is approved
I have applied EAD/AP through this pending AOS, but neither me nor my wife are using EAD/AP since we are both maintaining H1B status.
My wife's parallel GC process - I-140 just got in EB2 - PD Jan 2005.
The Alient no on her application is the same that got assigned due to her pending AOS application .Her PD is current with Aug 2008 bulletine
Do you think we can file multiple 485 to take advantage of EB2 - jan 2005 PD
What is the risk?
OR
just send a letter asking USCIS to consider her approved I-140 for processing the pending AOS applications instead of mine.
Will USCIS do that.
I have applied EAD/AP through this pending AOS, but neither me nor my wife are using EAD/AP since we are both maintaining H1B status.
My wife's parallel GC process - I-140 just got in EB2 - PD Jan 2005.
The Alient no on her application is the same that got assigned due to her pending AOS application .Her PD is current with Aug 2008 bulletine
Do you think we can file multiple 485 to take advantage of EB2 - jan 2005 PD
What is the risk?
OR
just send a letter asking USCIS to consider her approved I-140 for processing the pending AOS applications instead of mine.
Will USCIS do that.
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chi_shark
10-28 03:06 PM
i am curious... if someone leaves a comment with a red or a green dot, how do i get to see the comment?
Some moron gave me a Red for my post below with the comment ".."
Seriously dude, if you are so naive as to think that ROW folks are just going sit around and watch EB2 India consume the spillover numbers, then get your head examined or stop smoking that pipe. Have you ever wondered how low the participation is from ROW applicants on these forums? This is simply because for the most part its become a desi forum mostly dominated by EB2 folks.
Or you can give me another red and stick your head back in the sand (...or in those clouds, whatever the case may be)
Some moron gave me a Red for my post below with the comment ".."
Seriously dude, if you are so naive as to think that ROW folks are just going sit around and watch EB2 India consume the spillover numbers, then get your head examined or stop smoking that pipe. Have you ever wondered how low the participation is from ROW applicants on these forums? This is simply because for the most part its become a desi forum mostly dominated by EB2 folks.
Or you can give me another red and stick your head back in the sand (...or in those clouds, whatever the case may be)
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Legal
07-25 02:37 PM
Do you guys remember how many visas USCIS processed within the Last few days of June 2007 ( I remember it was around 20k) just to make sure they exhaust the Visa numbers and rollback the Visa Bulletin?
If it's possible for them to complete as many applications within a short span of time,it means they are capable of processing the applications faster...
Now due to more hiring they might process all the available visas by the end of the year.
Not that I'm having hopes of me getting 485 approved based on my PD, but just to put things in perspective....
We'll see once we hit Aug 1st......
Baseline average approvals have been 9000+ per month......read this link.
http://www.ilw.com/articles/2007,0716-lee.shtm
Details Leaking Out on July Visa Chart Fiasco Show Extraordinary and Legally Questionable Steps by U.S.C.I.S. to Exhaust Visa Numbers to Protect Fee Hike Collections
by Alan Lee, Esq.
More details came to light today as the New York Times reported that immigration officials said that employees were put to work both days last weekend at service centers in Texas and Nebraska, and that 25,000 applications were processed in the final 48 hours before Monday's deadline. ]
This means that given the statutory authority to approve 140,000 numbers per year, the agency in the seven years has averaged 113,901 completed cases per year, or 9,492 approvals per month. ...........
Department of State could say that sudden backlog reduction efforts by Citizenship and Immigration Services offices during the past month had resulted in the use of almost 60,000 employment numbers constitutes a phenomenon attributable solely to overtime work at the service centers during the last weekend and the cutting of corners on security as seen in the New York Times article.
If it's possible for them to complete as many applications within a short span of time,it means they are capable of processing the applications faster...
Now due to more hiring they might process all the available visas by the end of the year.
Not that I'm having hopes of me getting 485 approved based on my PD, but just to put things in perspective....
We'll see once we hit Aug 1st......
Baseline average approvals have been 9000+ per month......read this link.
http://www.ilw.com/articles/2007,0716-lee.shtm
Details Leaking Out on July Visa Chart Fiasco Show Extraordinary and Legally Questionable Steps by U.S.C.I.S. to Exhaust Visa Numbers to Protect Fee Hike Collections
by Alan Lee, Esq.
More details came to light today as the New York Times reported that immigration officials said that employees were put to work both days last weekend at service centers in Texas and Nebraska, and that 25,000 applications were processed in the final 48 hours before Monday's deadline. ]
This means that given the statutory authority to approve 140,000 numbers per year, the agency in the seven years has averaged 113,901 completed cases per year, or 9,492 approvals per month. ...........
Department of State could say that sudden backlog reduction efforts by Citizenship and Immigration Services offices during the past month had resulted in the use of almost 60,000 employment numbers constitutes a phenomenon attributable solely to overtime work at the service centers during the last weekend and the cutting of corners on security as seen in the New York Times article.
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reddymjm
09-26 01:37 PM
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test101
07-10 10:11 PM
The thing is - people are crazy about USA, no matter what - so if you leave someone else will come - thats the attitude here. Exploitation to the core. The way America was built is by slavery. America became such a great country only because of slavery. There were moments in past where people revolted and found liberty - and we are all on that path. Look at the Black civil rights moment etc.
The problem with the current immigration policy that the government is forcing the companies to outsource the HI-TECK jobs and needed skilled immigrants works like RNS to Canada, and other countries. These jobs could be taken by American maybe, but now they wont have that chance.
The job that suppose to exsit and be filled by american or immigrant in the teck industry is not going to exist in the US. Instead it's going to exist in Canada for an immigrant.
The US faces huge nursing shortage, nurses are going Canada and Australia, same for PT's. US is not going to get the tax money, social security nor the jobs. High paid jobs like HI-TECK and nurses,..ect get taxed more and now this tax is going to be in anther country.
MS started outsourcing, Oracle is following. Nurses & PT's educated in the US are leaving it. This current policy is not for the greater good of the country, it's by cheer of bureaucratic incompetence.
This is going to become more than just an immigration problem. This is going to hurt the economy& health care real bad if they do not fix it.
stay toned 5 more years of this and see how bad it's going to get.
The problem with the current immigration policy that the government is forcing the companies to outsource the HI-TECK jobs and needed skilled immigrants works like RNS to Canada, and other countries. These jobs could be taken by American maybe, but now they wont have that chance.
The job that suppose to exsit and be filled by american or immigrant in the teck industry is not going to exist in the US. Instead it's going to exist in Canada for an immigrant.
The US faces huge nursing shortage, nurses are going Canada and Australia, same for PT's. US is not going to get the tax money, social security nor the jobs. High paid jobs like HI-TECK and nurses,..ect get taxed more and now this tax is going to be in anther country.
MS started outsourcing, Oracle is following. Nurses & PT's educated in the US are leaving it. This current policy is not for the greater good of the country, it's by cheer of bureaucratic incompetence.
This is going to become more than just an immigration problem. This is going to hurt the economy& health care real bad if they do not fix it.
stay toned 5 more years of this and see how bad it's going to get.
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bazuka6
09-25 09:52 AM
Nixtor, this idea is worth trying. If people who are buyinh house can be exempted from the VB quota, this will free up extra visas and will help those people who will not buy a house.
Yes... if you have house closing statement and have been here legally and paid taxes(last X years... you are exempt from VISA cap)
Now that makes sense for a senator looking for a predictable way to solve mortgage crisis
Yes... if you have house closing statement and have been here legally and paid taxes(last X years... you are exempt from VISA cap)
Now that makes sense for a senator looking for a predictable way to solve mortgage crisis
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gc_lover
06-28 09:51 AM
Hi,
Are they predicting just mid month retrogression or early month retrogression?
Thanks
Actually, they are not predicting anything. All he is saying is that it has happened before to "other worker" category and it can happen again to EB categories.
Are they predicting just mid month retrogression or early month retrogression?
Thanks
Actually, they are not predicting anything. All he is saying is that it has happened before to "other worker" category and it can happen again to EB categories.
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unseenguy
06-16 06:51 AM
Easy for you to say when you are applying for your citizenship. You sir, are an idiot. And if you were really on H1 for as long as you claim, you are a mean idiot, no less.
Retrogression is a scar on the face of EB immigration.
Thats the reason every immigration bill so far related to EB has tried to resolve this issue. Anyone who says retrogression is good is either misinformed or a pychopathic specimen that needs instant mental evaluation, followed by treatment and observation in an asylum. The observation should continue for as long as it takes a typical EB3-India case to get approved. To paraphrase your quote: "The truly cured would still be observed until their turn for release comes"
I agree with you. This guy applied his GC in 2001 and got it in 2003. In just 2 years. He made a stupid decision to leave MSFT and then lost 3 jobs in a short span. He is some nut mental case who is happy seeing others getting screwed. Maybe he works his way up by pushing others down.
Retrogression is a scar on the face of EB immigration.
Thats the reason every immigration bill so far related to EB has tried to resolve this issue. Anyone who says retrogression is good is either misinformed or a pychopathic specimen that needs instant mental evaluation, followed by treatment and observation in an asylum. The observation should continue for as long as it takes a typical EB3-India case to get approved. To paraphrase your quote: "The truly cured would still be observed until their turn for release comes"
I agree with you. This guy applied his GC in 2001 and got it in 2003. In just 2 years. He made a stupid decision to leave MSFT and then lost 3 jobs in a short span. He is some nut mental case who is happy seeing others getting screwed. Maybe he works his way up by pushing others down.
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ronhira
01-13 08:28 PM
how'll this affect those on ead or ac21...... it seems that this has no affect on us if we r using ead with the sponsoring employer or ac21 employer..... is that correct?
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dilipcr
06-11 11:49 PM
People need to understand that you need to give some to win some. I would like to propose to IV a kind of proposal that would be a win win for both the immigrants and the US.
1. It is meaningless to fight for the rights of ALL the visa holders. Any such attempts would always be resisted by the anti immigrant lobby.
2. Acknowledge their fundamental point of view that jobs are being stolen due to wage destruction and perpetual visa fraud by these outsourcing companies. Of course resist all these racist BS types. They are the just the noise in the immigration debate.
My Proposal
1. Support the Grassley bill in its entirety. If you notice it is those outsourcing companies that are making all the noise but not the genuine companies that use H1B for innovation purposes. These outsourcing neither follow the rules or spirit of the H1B/L1 visas nor provide much of innovation to the market place. There is no point in expecting them to police themselves. We have tried this and they are not here to play by the rules.
2. In fact, provide the concessions to eliminate the H1/L1 visas for these outsourcers. In return, request visa number recapture for the H1Bs who are employed directly by the companies. I strongly believe that if you are a H1B employed directly by the company (not outsourcing cos), it is unlikely that you would be underskilled or underpaid. A few minor expections may be there but we can safely ignore these exceptions.
3. Again, people may argue that some of the consultants are highly skilled too. If that were the case, they would have been or would be hired into a permenant position soon once the Grassley bill passes. No company would like to let go of a good performer irrespective of whether they are permenant employees or contractors.
If you notice, some people echo the sentiment that the Grassley bill would lead to more offshoring. That in my opinion is absolute BS. Only low level jobs would be offshored and in my opinion a h1b visa should not be used for these low level jobs. The high skilled jobs would always stay here and they would not be under wage pressure. The best and the fittest would survive and get the same.
I strongly believe that by providing these concessions, atleast the skilled immigrants would be sparred the trauma of this mindless wait for a GC. I wish to reiterate here that I am neither anti immigration nor anti any ethnicity. I am simply trying to reiterate that we need to lose some to win some. There is no point in the Indian style of negotiations of win all or win none. Let us adapt to the give some take some style of concession building. In this process, it is okay to give up on the interests of those blood sucking outsourcers. For this, I am willing to provide financial, logistical and intellectual support.
By following this route, we prevent wage destruction which is what the anti immigrant lobby is clamouring about. It is a win win for all and a lose situation for the blood suckers
1. It is meaningless to fight for the rights of ALL the visa holders. Any such attempts would always be resisted by the anti immigrant lobby.
2. Acknowledge their fundamental point of view that jobs are being stolen due to wage destruction and perpetual visa fraud by these outsourcing companies. Of course resist all these racist BS types. They are the just the noise in the immigration debate.
My Proposal
1. Support the Grassley bill in its entirety. If you notice it is those outsourcing companies that are making all the noise but not the genuine companies that use H1B for innovation purposes. These outsourcing neither follow the rules or spirit of the H1B/L1 visas nor provide much of innovation to the market place. There is no point in expecting them to police themselves. We have tried this and they are not here to play by the rules.
2. In fact, provide the concessions to eliminate the H1/L1 visas for these outsourcers. In return, request visa number recapture for the H1Bs who are employed directly by the companies. I strongly believe that if you are a H1B employed directly by the company (not outsourcing cos), it is unlikely that you would be underskilled or underpaid. A few minor expections may be there but we can safely ignore these exceptions.
3. Again, people may argue that some of the consultants are highly skilled too. If that were the case, they would have been or would be hired into a permenant position soon once the Grassley bill passes. No company would like to let go of a good performer irrespective of whether they are permenant employees or contractors.
If you notice, some people echo the sentiment that the Grassley bill would lead to more offshoring. That in my opinion is absolute BS. Only low level jobs would be offshored and in my opinion a h1b visa should not be used for these low level jobs. The high skilled jobs would always stay here and they would not be under wage pressure. The best and the fittest would survive and get the same.
I strongly believe that by providing these concessions, atleast the skilled immigrants would be sparred the trauma of this mindless wait for a GC. I wish to reiterate here that I am neither anti immigration nor anti any ethnicity. I am simply trying to reiterate that we need to lose some to win some. There is no point in the Indian style of negotiations of win all or win none. Let us adapt to the give some take some style of concession building. In this process, it is okay to give up on the interests of those blood sucking outsourcers. For this, I am willing to provide financial, logistical and intellectual support.
By following this route, we prevent wage destruction which is what the anti immigrant lobby is clamouring about. It is a win win for all and a lose situation for the blood suckers
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alterego
12-14 05:26 PM
An additional thing I want to point out is that the US cannot make itself diverse by restricting immigration to a diverse population mix. It is a well known fact that Hispanic american women bear many more children than Caucasian american women. How does america fix that, and if it does not then why talk about diversity in immigration?
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05-11 10:50 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/as_sri_lanka_civil_war
What a shame ! Yesterday only UPA Govt. issued a statement that because of their intensive efforts SL govt. has stopped bombing.
Congress/ Sonia is seeing this as personal which shouldn't have been the case.
Countries like Japan, Norway have condemned these attacks by SL govt/ sending diplomats and our UPA govt. PM says we can't do anything !
See the poor foreign policy by UPA govt. - Nepal has fallen to Maoist- backed by China, Taliban are rising as never before, LeT has become more stronger, Bangladesh soldiers are killing CRF personals on the boarder and India is home for more 2 Carores Bangladeshi now, China is disputing Arunachalam...and many more.
What a shame ! Yesterday only UPA Govt. issued a statement that because of their intensive efforts SL govt. has stopped bombing.
Congress/ Sonia is seeing this as personal which shouldn't have been the case.
Countries like Japan, Norway have condemned these attacks by SL govt/ sending diplomats and our UPA govt. PM says we can't do anything !
See the poor foreign policy by UPA govt. - Nepal has fallen to Maoist- backed by China, Taliban are rising as never before, LeT has become more stronger, Bangladesh soldiers are killing CRF personals on the boarder and India is home for more 2 Carores Bangladeshi now, China is disputing Arunachalam...and many more.
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GCard_Dream
05-25 12:36 PM
Oh ya... you think the immigration fees in US are low. Wait till this bill takes effect and you have to pay 5000 dollars just to get a damn H1-B then you will know who charges more for immigration fees.
As it is the fee is 1500 hundred dollars which is not a joke for lot of people. We normally don't complain because employers pick up the tab. By the way this doesn't even include the lawyer's fee yet.
I mean how do people come up with things like these to say.
www.notcanada.com
Its blatant racism here. THe population is aging and the government makes a big chunk of money via immigration fees.
As it is the fee is 1500 hundred dollars which is not a joke for lot of people. We normally don't complain because employers pick up the tab. By the way this doesn't even include the lawyer's fee yet.
I mean how do people come up with things like these to say.
www.notcanada.com
Its blatant racism here. THe population is aging and the government makes a big chunk of money via immigration fees.
snathan
03-30 04:03 PM
Nathan, it is not about MMS, it is about congress. MMS is just a puppet as he was during Narasimha Rao's govt.
Can you tell us with 100% surety that MMS will not get replaced by Rahul Gandhi after 2 years?
Yes...only that puupet brought those changes and reforms. I dont have any issues for Mr. Advani, but please show me some track record as he was part of the ruling party for five years.
Can you tell us with 100% surety that MMS will not get replaced by Rahul Gandhi after 2 years?
Yes...only that puupet brought those changes and reforms. I dont have any issues for Mr. Advani, but please show me some track record as he was part of the ruling party for five years.
desigirl
01-13 03:17 PM
Plainspeak - From one girl to another - you have a lot of time to kill :) For members who did not get worked up by your post, everyone has had a good laugh! Thanks.
Trying to have a discussion on your points is meaningless (at least to me) as I do not believe in conceit.
BTW, you don't have to respond to my post, as I will not be checking it.
Trying to have a discussion on your points is meaningless (at least to me) as I do not believe in conceit.
BTW, you don't have to respond to my post, as I will not be checking it.
