shukla77
06-11 10:07 AM
Agree 100%.
very good points.
this is what we do till infinity ...discuss discuss discuss.
open more threads, discuss discuss discuss.
end.
we discuss more than the congress.
let us come with small numerous campaigns to highlight the contributions of legal immigrants..atleast that will prevent people from getting bored
very good points.
this is what we do till infinity ...discuss discuss discuss.
open more threads, discuss discuss discuss.
end.
we discuss more than the congress.
let us come with small numerous campaigns to highlight the contributions of legal immigrants..atleast that will prevent people from getting bored
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life99f
06-28 12:20 PM
For July 485 filing, can I send papers in Saturday June 30th ?
EndlessWait
10-07 06:36 PM
lets get the message to congress!
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voldemar
03-29 03:02 PM
OK, I've done some more homework and this is what I found in the proposed rule text:
Basically it says that the rule applies to:
(i) pending labor certification applications and
(ii) approved labor certification which have not yet been filed with USCIS
So it looks like you won't be affected if your case is already pending with the USCIS.Good catch!
Basically it says that the rule applies to:
(i) pending labor certification applications and
(ii) approved labor certification which have not yet been filed with USCIS
So it looks like you won't be affected if your case is already pending with the USCIS.Good catch!
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perm2gc
06-26 01:48 PM
nope. The august bulletin which gets released mid july didn't get into our arguements at all. We were specifially talking about july filers and july month.
Yes, i agree that if August bulletin retrogresses than that affects only august filers and not the people eligible to file in july.
my attorney also said same thing..
Yes, i agree that if August bulletin retrogresses than that affects only august filers and not the people eligible to file in july.
my attorney also said same thing..
gc_dream2009
01-13 04:08 PM
Hmm.. so yesterday we were buddies on the other thread (at least you made it out to be for the sake of your arguments) and today I am part of the "enemy" because I am speaking sense and not rhetoric? I think I saw that coming.
By the way, I don't think you won ANYONE over so far. Keep trying...
If i remeber correcttly it was all you IV guys (Mostly EB2 and some EB3 too) who were doing all the
sheriking and teqaring of hair and other stuff.
To talk like me you donto need to be on smoke, coffee or dope or anything else. All you need is respect for others point of view and courage to stand up for what you beleive and not be intimated by bullies
My tone was always the same (Albiet i used some strong words in between but that is my fault not yours) and my messages have been the same. If you think about it all you guys who were seeing my messages are now seeing them again and maybe just maybe undwerstanding the intent if not agrreing with me. Which is ok. You cannot win them all.....
Good Luck To You TOO.
By the way, I don't think you won ANYONE over so far. Keep trying...
If i remeber correcttly it was all you IV guys (Mostly EB2 and some EB3 too) who were doing all the
sheriking and teqaring of hair and other stuff.
To talk like me you donto need to be on smoke, coffee or dope or anything else. All you need is respect for others point of view and courage to stand up for what you beleive and not be intimated by bullies
My tone was always the same (Albiet i used some strong words in between but that is my fault not yours) and my messages have been the same. If you think about it all you guys who were seeing my messages are now seeing them again and maybe just maybe undwerstanding the intent if not agrreing with me. Which is ok. You cannot win them all.....
Good Luck To You TOO.
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conchshell
07-26 05:08 PM
In the past 4+ years, the annual H1 queue is just 65K. So the input into the EB queue must have moderated quite a bit.
Another piece of information, supporting your argument. This is posted on immigration-law.com today:
The DOL has yet to release its 3rd Quarter Performance report ending at the end of June 2008, but the second quarter report indicates that the foreign labor certification applications continuously dropped from the same period in FY 2007 including permanent as well as temporary labor certification applications. PERM applications dropped 46% from the statistics of the second quarter of FY 2007. The report indicates that despite increased audits (over 45%) and related work, the processing times remain steady. Obviously, it must have been affected more by decreased number of new applications than any drastic improvement in processing times in each application. In fact, from the perspectives of each PERM application, the processing times have witnessed a substantial delay over the last one year. The delay which was associated with the massive audit and related activities could have been offset by the substantial drop in the PERM applications in the overall statistical figure in the report. The DOL report did not report the details of the causes for continuing decrease in PERM applications, but this should be taken as an alert to the U.S. businesses as an indication of reduced incentives for the needed foreign workers to remain in the U.S. and potential reduced availability of the talented foreign workers to support the U.S. businesses' competition in the world. Considering the fact that the supply and demand of resources at the international level are not something which can be rebalanced over a night or a short period of time, the political leaders should start paying attention to the urgency of the reform in the employment-based immigration system before it gets too late.
Another piece of information, supporting your argument. This is posted on immigration-law.com today:
The DOL has yet to release its 3rd Quarter Performance report ending at the end of June 2008, but the second quarter report indicates that the foreign labor certification applications continuously dropped from the same period in FY 2007 including permanent as well as temporary labor certification applications. PERM applications dropped 46% from the statistics of the second quarter of FY 2007. The report indicates that despite increased audits (over 45%) and related work, the processing times remain steady. Obviously, it must have been affected more by decreased number of new applications than any drastic improvement in processing times in each application. In fact, from the perspectives of each PERM application, the processing times have witnessed a substantial delay over the last one year. The delay which was associated with the massive audit and related activities could have been offset by the substantial drop in the PERM applications in the overall statistical figure in the report. The DOL report did not report the details of the causes for continuing decrease in PERM applications, but this should be taken as an alert to the U.S. businesses as an indication of reduced incentives for the needed foreign workers to remain in the U.S. and potential reduced availability of the talented foreign workers to support the U.S. businesses' competition in the world. Considering the fact that the supply and demand of resources at the international level are not something which can be rebalanced over a night or a short period of time, the political leaders should start paying attention to the urgency of the reform in the employment-based immigration system before it gets too late.
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Macaca
07-04 10:42 AM
I am developing a general framework in which you can plug in your own traumatic experience. The following is a good start. Please develop your own writeups.
From then on it was a scramble to fulfill a long list of requirements to be able to apply on time. The first task was for my husband to convince his HR to sponsor the process. Since they had already budgeted for the fiscal year and are on a spending freeze , it took a lot of convincing . The HR complied and gratefully we set out to get our Medical exams (at own cost of 150*2).Since we live in a small state with few doctors we drove 2 hours to a neighboring state to get them on time.
Being a mother of 3 small kids, I could not work on important paper works with them around. So after putting them to bed we spent the entire night pulling out the required documents from archives and placing them in order; numerous phone calls to parents back in India to collect their date of birth, place of birth information and completed the questionnaire.
Got passport pictures(60$) and mailed it all to our lawyers praying it will be one of the first to reach the department office on start of business on July 2nd.
The following are very good points that need more polish! The main point here is that we really can not understand this CRAP wih all other things in life which Americans are not facing!
We are raising families here, our everyday life is no different from any other AMERICAN middle class family with same expectations and hopes, so its not easy to presume that we can pull out or get out of this situation and return to our home countries.
Patience is not just a virtue but a way of life for thousands of Legal immigrants who have been living in the US for a number of years . Besides the everyday stress of Job,Mortgage,Health and education of their children they live with the added suspense of when their application for permanent residency ,commonly referred as "Green card" will move ahead from its deep slumber.
From then on it was a scramble to fulfill a long list of requirements to be able to apply on time. The first task was for my husband to convince his HR to sponsor the process. Since they had already budgeted for the fiscal year and are on a spending freeze , it took a lot of convincing . The HR complied and gratefully we set out to get our Medical exams (at own cost of 150*2).Since we live in a small state with few doctors we drove 2 hours to a neighboring state to get them on time.
Being a mother of 3 small kids, I could not work on important paper works with them around. So after putting them to bed we spent the entire night pulling out the required documents from archives and placing them in order; numerous phone calls to parents back in India to collect their date of birth, place of birth information and completed the questionnaire.
Got passport pictures(60$) and mailed it all to our lawyers praying it will be one of the first to reach the department office on start of business on July 2nd.
The following are very good points that need more polish! The main point here is that we really can not understand this CRAP wih all other things in life which Americans are not facing!
We are raising families here, our everyday life is no different from any other AMERICAN middle class family with same expectations and hopes, so its not easy to presume that we can pull out or get out of this situation and return to our home countries.
Patience is not just a virtue but a way of life for thousands of Legal immigrants who have been living in the US for a number of years . Besides the everyday stress of Job,Mortgage,Health and education of their children they live with the added suspense of when their application for permanent residency ,commonly referred as "Green card" will move ahead from its deep slumber.
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Beemar
04-01 03:33 PM
In a democracy people get the leaders they deserve.
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chi_shark
06-11 12:49 AM
ratturani, i am seeing an increasing number of posts that state the facts as clearly as you have stated... thats great... now i think somewhere some day, someone will float a good idea of motivating employers such as MS, Intel, BAC etc to fight for us instead of trying to motivate only the congress... see, we dont have too much of power in congress... :-(
Don't think of it as punishment. The US wants to allow a certain number of people to immigrate each year. The demand far outstrips the supply. That's where the problem is.
There are two ways to address this:
Increase the supply
Decrease the demand
Those are the only two ways. One option would be to go for a points based system that awards the limited visas to those with the best qualifications or where the need is greatest. After all the US is in a "buyer's market" and can pick and choose those immigrants that add most to the country.
The other option (which is at present politically infeasible) is to increase the annual immigrant quotas. Tough to support this in a recession with 10% unemployment.
I'm not sure you can characterize this as unfair... ultimately it is left to the US to determine how many people they want immigrating.
Don't think of it as punishment. The US wants to allow a certain number of people to immigrate each year. The demand far outstrips the supply. That's where the problem is.
There are two ways to address this:
Increase the supply
Decrease the demand
Those are the only two ways. One option would be to go for a points based system that awards the limited visas to those with the best qualifications or where the need is greatest. After all the US is in a "buyer's market" and can pick and choose those immigrants that add most to the country.
The other option (which is at present politically infeasible) is to increase the annual immigrant quotas. Tough to support this in a recession with 10% unemployment.
I'm not sure you can characterize this as unfair... ultimately it is left to the US to determine how many people they want immigrating.
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bayarea07
07-22 02:54 PM
I would agree with you on this for normal people but not for amway folks, when you are continously being pushed to being on the verge of harrasment then i would think that every human being would behave the way as we do
Moreover they are the ones who push people to behave that way.
Respect is all give and take.
I have been following this thread for last couple of days and I feel I need to make few points. I remember when this amway/qucikstar thing started several of my close friends got entangled and tried to involve me. However, every time I bailed myself out by clearly mentioning to them "Right now, making lot of money is not in my top priorities. I want to focus on my carrier." Fortunately, I was able to fend off the proposals and clearly make my point.
In this thread, several of you are mentioning to ridicule, diminish, embarrass, and even socially out casting an amway/quickstar member. I feel its going a little bit too far. If you dont like to be in the amway/quickstar business stay clear of it, nobody will be able to force you in it. Setting up anti-amway websites, sharing names of the "bugging" amway members, distributing their phone numbers, and destroying their social reputation is harming the person personally, not the amway/quickstar business. We all know by now the amway/quickstar is a scam, majority of its signed members end up losing valuable time and money. How do you feel if some of your mentioned action emotionally push a distressed person off the cliff. Think about it a bit !!!
Moreover they are the ones who push people to behave that way.
Respect is all give and take.
I have been following this thread for last couple of days and I feel I need to make few points. I remember when this amway/qucikstar thing started several of my close friends got entangled and tried to involve me. However, every time I bailed myself out by clearly mentioning to them "Right now, making lot of money is not in my top priorities. I want to focus on my carrier." Fortunately, I was able to fend off the proposals and clearly make my point.
In this thread, several of you are mentioning to ridicule, diminish, embarrass, and even socially out casting an amway/quickstar member. I feel its going a little bit too far. If you dont like to be in the amway/quickstar business stay clear of it, nobody will be able to force you in it. Setting up anti-amway websites, sharing names of the "bugging" amway members, distributing their phone numbers, and destroying their social reputation is harming the person personally, not the amway/quickstar business. We all know by now the amway/quickstar is a scam, majority of its signed members end up losing valuable time and money. How do you feel if some of your mentioned action emotionally push a distressed person off the cliff. Think about it a bit !!!
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maximus777
06-05 03:26 PM
There is already a thread working on Government of India to consolidate Pension Fund with Social Security. America already has this type of treaties with few european countries. But looking at the bereaucracy now, this may take next 10-15 years.
I'll take that timeframe as long as such an arrangement can be worked out. Most of us here have 15+ years to retirement. As long as we get back our hard earned money, and as long as the US govt/treasury feels the pain in disbursing billions of dollars into Indian economy. :cool:
I know, I can only wish! :rolleyes:
I'll take that timeframe as long as such an arrangement can be worked out. Most of us here have 15+ years to retirement. As long as we get back our hard earned money, and as long as the US govt/treasury feels the pain in disbursing billions of dollars into Indian economy. :cool:
I know, I can only wish! :rolleyes:
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sammyb
02-13 02:41 PM
and realizing the issue itself...
we like the American citizens, live in a protectionist mode ... even if we are not getting benefitted but we still want to law in place as this gives some comfort in mind ...
I would ask all those who are opposing the removal of per country cap - for one day only lets switch your shoes with someone who filed his labor in 00 or 01 and see how it feels ... then come here tomorrow and discuss this issue again from the beginning ... you need to feel it to realize the pain...
it won't do any good by arguing against or for a cause which may or may not help you me or someone else ... the whole EB GC process is a mess and someone needs to exert the right push to make this correct ... at today�s date IV is the only organization doing that ... so join hands and do it together ... down the line after ten years you shouldn't feel that you have had the opportunity but you didn't do enough to take care of it...
What ever gave you the idea that EB ROW only wait for 3 years? There's this common misconception flying around here that somehow ROW just cruises by and we get GC handed to us on a platter when in fact up until yesterday EB-3 ROW was just as retrogressed as any other category not to mention that labor (pre PERM) and name check delays affected ROW just as much as everyone else. For instance, my brother, who is EB3-ROW with a PD of Dec 2002... and has been in the US since early 2000 and is still waiting in line...so do the math.
We're all in this crap together, some worse than others... so let's stop with this ROW Vs India & China nonsense. Country quotas are unfair and frankly the entire GC process is unfair and unpredictable... We should aim for solutions that solve this issue in a comprehensive way, not by dividing us even further.
we like the American citizens, live in a protectionist mode ... even if we are not getting benefitted but we still want to law in place as this gives some comfort in mind ...
I would ask all those who are opposing the removal of per country cap - for one day only lets switch your shoes with someone who filed his labor in 00 or 01 and see how it feels ... then come here tomorrow and discuss this issue again from the beginning ... you need to feel it to realize the pain...
it won't do any good by arguing against or for a cause which may or may not help you me or someone else ... the whole EB GC process is a mess and someone needs to exert the right push to make this correct ... at today�s date IV is the only organization doing that ... so join hands and do it together ... down the line after ten years you shouldn't feel that you have had the opportunity but you didn't do enough to take care of it...
What ever gave you the idea that EB ROW only wait for 3 years? There's this common misconception flying around here that somehow ROW just cruises by and we get GC handed to us on a platter when in fact up until yesterday EB-3 ROW was just as retrogressed as any other category not to mention that labor (pre PERM) and name check delays affected ROW just as much as everyone else. For instance, my brother, who is EB3-ROW with a PD of Dec 2002... and has been in the US since early 2000 and is still waiting in line...so do the math.
We're all in this crap together, some worse than others... so let's stop with this ROW Vs India & China nonsense. Country quotas are unfair and frankly the entire GC process is unfair and unpredictable... We should aim for solutions that solve this issue in a comprehensive way, not by dividing us even further.
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09-05 07:31 PM
QUOTE=_TrueFacts;840961]breddy2000,
Because of assholes like you ,
.....MOTHER FUCKER...
Please, stop using this language
Because of assholes like you ,
.....MOTHER FUCKER...
Please, stop using this language
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villamonte6100
12-14 02:22 PM
I still dont see any discrimination on the existing laws. The number of visas divided equally to all countries.
If no one (including the Govt.) is allowed to discriminate based on national origin then how can the Govt. discriminate on EB Emigration based on national origin ?
I think this is a fair question and most Americans in my work place agree with me. I don't know if we will win the case or not but if we win we can get
1) Removal of country based quotas
2) recapture of Visa's lost due to country based quotas
If we lose the case we will at least get more attention of the national media, it's up to us how we manage the media attention and have a positive effect on the popularity of our cause.
IMHO taking the opinion of the best attorney on constitutional law can not hurt. :)
If no one (including the Govt.) is allowed to discriminate based on national origin then how can the Govt. discriminate on EB Emigration based on national origin ?
I think this is a fair question and most Americans in my work place agree with me. I don't know if we will win the case or not but if we win we can get
1) Removal of country based quotas
2) recapture of Visa's lost due to country based quotas
If we lose the case we will at least get more attention of the national media, it's up to us how we manage the media attention and have a positive effect on the popularity of our cause.
IMHO taking the opinion of the best attorney on constitutional law can not hurt. :)
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eager_immi
07-12 10:20 AM
I think this all depends on individual application. I got a letter stating "no further documents were needed." I did not submit any TOEFL scores. I just sent them a letter detailing that my husband and I work for Fortune 500 and have been in the US for over 10 years. I also stated that my daily work includes interacting with high level executives, c-suite folks all the time. My work entails writing reports, issuing memorandums etc. My letter from employer also stated that my ability to communicate in English is equivalent to a native speaker. But I know sometimes it does not work it all depends on the individual who is accessing your case. Just one pointer make sure the letter is well written, free of grammatical errors, and you have spent several hours editing and re-editing it. I have seen lots of posts where people have uploaded the letter they sent to the embassy, but the English was very poor.
They asked me to submit IELTS test results inspite of submitting TOEFL score (108/120) and english proficiency letter.
They asked me to submit IELTS test results inspite of submitting TOEFL score (108/120) and english proficiency letter.
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rongha_2000
07-26 02:42 PM
So why are you here in the first place? Why in US? Why applying for GC? Why on IV to try to improve this broken system? Face the fact, you too dont want to return or else you wouldnt be here.
There is no harm in being selfish and persuing a better life. "Do something good for India" is an ideal punch line for preachers. BUT Be realistic.
I am an Indian and proud to be so. Indians - Remove the "SLAVE" mentality from your minds. Think positive. Do some thing good for India, where you have been born and brought up; where your previous generations have flourished. Since, you are now living and earning in US, be loyal to US too.
There is no harm in being selfish and persuing a better life. "Do something good for India" is an ideal punch line for preachers. BUT Be realistic.
I am an Indian and proud to be so. Indians - Remove the "SLAVE" mentality from your minds. Think positive. Do some thing good for India, where you have been born and brought up; where your previous generations have flourished. Since, you are now living and earning in US, be loyal to US too.
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voldemar
04-28 12:38 PM
Hello all,
Any news on what happened on the decision on suspension/removal of labor substitution? I searched in google but couldn't find any updates.
Substitution ban rule got clearance from OMB
AGENCY: DOL-ETA RIN: 1205-AB42
TITLE: Labor Certification for the Permanent Employment of Aliens in the United States; Reducing the Incentives and Opportunities for Fraud and Abuse and Enhancing Program Integrity
STAGE: Final Rule ECONOMICALLY SIGNIFICANT: No
RECEIVED DATE: 01/26/2007 LEGAL DEADLINE: None
** COMPLETED: 04/27/2007 COMPLETED ACTION: Consistent with Change
Check http://www.reginfo.gov/public/do/eoPackageMain
Any news on what happened on the decision on suspension/removal of labor substitution? I searched in google but couldn't find any updates.
Substitution ban rule got clearance from OMB
AGENCY: DOL-ETA RIN: 1205-AB42
TITLE: Labor Certification for the Permanent Employment of Aliens in the United States; Reducing the Incentives and Opportunities for Fraud and Abuse and Enhancing Program Integrity
STAGE: Final Rule ECONOMICALLY SIGNIFICANT: No
RECEIVED DATE: 01/26/2007 LEGAL DEADLINE: None
** COMPLETED: 04/27/2007 COMPLETED ACTION: Consistent with Change
Check http://www.reginfo.gov/public/do/eoPackageMain
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diptam
02-13 09:05 AM
Nothing to demean you Hopeful GC or any particular individual but this so called community that we are dealing with has none of the above characteristics to go for a CA Lawsuit... The coward and sleeping community wants everyone else to do or facilitate things for themselves. I had first hand experience during SEP 18th rally about the spines , guts , nerves and overall heart of this community when i approached educated ,well-informed ,highskilled peoples for attending the rally and what reply i got. Some of them even had the audacity to call up my family and tell bad things about me ( just because i requested them to wake up for a Rally for THEMSELVES )
CA Lawsuit with Cowards , selfish , heartless - never ever possible...:mad: But i appreciate and support your idea on a Personal level and willing to put a money contribution if the lawyer finds a prospective ground of but we have to bite and swallow the hard reality , you know :(
Clear up your mind for a little while and consider this:
The whole working world lives by on one simple rule ..... GETTING PEOPLE OFF YOUR BACK. The bigger PITA (pain-in-the-ass) you are... the higher is the priority you get ..........
USCIS says EBs are retrogressed because there are XXXXX people in the queue. Why is the queue so long? Because they wasted numbers in the past and kept the queue long. This is pure operational inefficiency that is resulting in monetary, emotional and mental loss to about a million people.
This is a valid ground for a class action lawsuit.
By filing this suit, we will become the "cactii in the colon" that they will have to address. And you know what the easy out of court settlement will be..... RECAPTURE! We will keep lobbying and crying as we usually do.. But this thing has a far better shot than anything else.
CA Lawsuit with Cowards , selfish , heartless - never ever possible...:mad: But i appreciate and support your idea on a Personal level and willing to put a money contribution if the lawyer finds a prospective ground of but we have to bite and swallow the hard reality , you know :(
Clear up your mind for a little while and consider this:
The whole working world lives by on one simple rule ..... GETTING PEOPLE OFF YOUR BACK. The bigger PITA (pain-in-the-ass) you are... the higher is the priority you get ..........
USCIS says EBs are retrogressed because there are XXXXX people in the queue. Why is the queue so long? Because they wasted numbers in the past and kept the queue long. This is pure operational inefficiency that is resulting in monetary, emotional and mental loss to about a million people.
This is a valid ground for a class action lawsuit.
By filing this suit, we will become the "cactii in the colon" that they will have to address. And you know what the easy out of court settlement will be..... RECAPTURE! We will keep lobbying and crying as we usually do.. But this thing has a far better shot than anything else.
amitjoey
01-13 12:24 PM
Members: Please - refrain from fighting about EB3/EB2.
IV is for everybody and IV has always tried to be balanced and fair to all categories. Please read the provisions that IV is asking for.
The goal is for zero backlog -Then where is the question of EB3 lagging behind.
IF we get what we are asking for- ie: recapture, not counting dependants and no country quota, then there wont be backlog in any of the categories.
IV is for everybody and IV has always tried to be balanced and fair to all categories. Please read the provisions that IV is asking for.
The goal is for zero backlog -Then where is the question of EB3 lagging behind.
IF we get what we are asking for- ie: recapture, not counting dependants and no country quota, then there wont be backlog in any of the categories.
mirage
03-30 04:30 PM
In my opinion MMS may be a nice person and may be a good economist, but it wasn't him who was running the govt. and it will not be him if he comes back again. It is a very common practice in India, a chemist will run a chemist shop but the License is in somebody else's name. Here also same thing happened, you saw Manmohan Singh on PM's chair, but it was somebody else who was running the show, and it is deception & dishonesty to your voters. I always see a "Culprit" in his eyes, which is either hiding something or is guilty. Observe him on TV, he's mostly not making too much eye contact, he know he is guilty of deception....
He also headed one of the most corrupt & criminal cabinets in the history of India. People like Taslimuddin, Shibu Soren , Jagdish Tytler, Lalu had several criminal cases against them. On the contary you may not personally Like LK Advani, It's not just him who's going to rule the country if he comes to power. It'll be the whole cabinet, most what was during Vajpayee govt. which was much cleaner & much more agressive on developmental issues, they worked on certain agendas, lot of places where you see growth, were actually the good work done by the NDA govt. You may praise Laloo for all the Railway turn around, but the reality is the foundation was layed by then Railway Minister "Nitish Kumar", AI/AI became profitable under "Rajiv Pratap Rudy" . There were people like "Suresh Prabhu", "Yashwant Sinha", "Arun Shourie", all of them did tremendous Jobs in their cabinet. Yes...only that puupet brought those changes and reforms. I dont have any issues for Mr. Advani, but please show me some track record as he was part of the ruling party for five years.
He also headed one of the most corrupt & criminal cabinets in the history of India. People like Taslimuddin, Shibu Soren , Jagdish Tytler, Lalu had several criminal cases against them. On the contary you may not personally Like LK Advani, It's not just him who's going to rule the country if he comes to power. It'll be the whole cabinet, most what was during Vajpayee govt. which was much cleaner & much more agressive on developmental issues, they worked on certain agendas, lot of places where you see growth, were actually the good work done by the NDA govt. You may praise Laloo for all the Railway turn around, but the reality is the foundation was layed by then Railway Minister "Nitish Kumar", AI/AI became profitable under "Rajiv Pratap Rudy" . There were people like "Suresh Prabhu", "Yashwant Sinha", "Arun Shourie", all of them did tremendous Jobs in their cabinet. Yes...only that puupet brought those changes and reforms. I dont have any issues for Mr. Advani, but please show me some track record as he was part of the ruling party for five years.
