somegchuh
11-18 02:41 AM
I just wanted to get this discussion back on track of ppl wanting to be able rise up a little, let their wives work and feel the freedom to make a decision to go back.
Let me restart the discussion. I know we are all frustrated to the extent that we want to pack up and leave but we have invested too much time to do that. But let's assume things start moving and we get our GC's in a year or so. Having spent so many years waiting to "settle" would you be willing to unsettle your life again and start over in a country that you left more than a decade ago.
Note that I am not doubting anyone's intention or disrespecting any entry. Just wondering if its the frustation talking or there are ppl who would actually leave?
Let me restart the discussion. I know we are all frustrated to the extent that we want to pack up and leave but we have invested too much time to do that. But let's assume things start moving and we get our GC's in a year or so. Having spent so many years waiting to "settle" would you be willing to unsettle your life again and start over in a country that you left more than a decade ago.
Note that I am not doubting anyone's intention or disrespecting any entry. Just wondering if its the frustation talking or there are ppl who would actually leave?
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aadimanav
07-15 01:32 PM
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gc_maine2
07-19 11:22 AM
Now there are so many threads for July 2 filers, can we keep just one thread active (lets say this, or any other relevant thread please point me) If this is the main thread, members who have posted their info in other threads since july 2, please repost it for better tracking.
My info
EB3/PD march04/NSC
UPS delivered on july 2 @ 9.45 CDT
signed by : Rob Pitcher
My info
EB3/PD march04/NSC
UPS delivered on july 2 @ 9.45 CDT
signed by : Rob Pitcher
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EkAurAaya
06-12 06:01 PM
There is definitely something missing here. You are either not saying the complete truth, OR your wife is not supporting you, OR you are suspecting that she will testify against you.
I agree with you, i think he is in deep s.... and the whole trying to type broken English thing is also fishy (in my opinion its on purpose)!
This guy has been in the country for more then 3 years (at least - based on his h1 being valid till 2011 which means recently extended)) on a work visa and cannot communicate a simple fact that they were fooling around and he didnt intend any harm (if that is the fact).... HE must be really really good at what he does at work for his company to keep him!
But to give the benefit of the doubt and innocent until proven guilty - I wish him luck!
I really hope i m wrong in judging you... and seriously I wish you all the best if you are being honest about the whole thing.
I agree with you, i think he is in deep s.... and the whole trying to type broken English thing is also fishy (in my opinion its on purpose)!
This guy has been in the country for more then 3 years (at least - based on his h1 being valid till 2011 which means recently extended)) on a work visa and cannot communicate a simple fact that they were fooling around and he didnt intend any harm (if that is the fact).... HE must be really really good at what he does at work for his company to keep him!
But to give the benefit of the doubt and innocent until proven guilty - I wish him luck!
I really hope i m wrong in judging you... and seriously I wish you all the best if you are being honest about the whole thing.
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ksach
03-01 01:37 AM
The text originally Posted by GoneSouth was great and we need more like this one. I feel that the stories should appeal more to the heart and than being heavy on technicalities. People would respond more when they see american values being abused than when they read how the green card process actually works. I wish I had the writing skills that many of the members have, but these are some of the things i would write about if I could write one.
1. The lack of freedom for legal immigrants. The country that values freedom so much and went to war for it would certainly like to address the issue for its own future citizens/residents.
2. The desperation and frustration of the highly skilled and educated immigrants.
3. The affects of the immigration process on the spouses of immigrants (boredom, anxiety, lack of financial independence, waste of their degrees etc.) and affects on marriages.
4. America no longer being a magnet for the bright and the smartest. (only one IIT ian graduate supposedly took up a job in the US, i read somewhere). How the future Vinod Khosla-s and Pramod Haque's are rotting in the current immigration system.
5. Link the current EB immigration system to slavery.
6. A picture speaks a thousand words, so maybe some photographs or comics might help (like chained IT workers, spouses whose degrees are wasted etc.)
7. I see a lot of nice quotes in some of the texts. Maybe it is nice to collect some of the nice quotes and publish them somewhere.
Maybe its best to use our contacts in our home countries to get some stories printed in leading newspapers/publications. In this flat world, the stories would float around and reach a wider audience.
my few cents.
regards,
-ks.
1. The lack of freedom for legal immigrants. The country that values freedom so much and went to war for it would certainly like to address the issue for its own future citizens/residents.
2. The desperation and frustration of the highly skilled and educated immigrants.
3. The affects of the immigration process on the spouses of immigrants (boredom, anxiety, lack of financial independence, waste of their degrees etc.) and affects on marriages.
4. America no longer being a magnet for the bright and the smartest. (only one IIT ian graduate supposedly took up a job in the US, i read somewhere). How the future Vinod Khosla-s and Pramod Haque's are rotting in the current immigration system.
5. Link the current EB immigration system to slavery.
6. A picture speaks a thousand words, so maybe some photographs or comics might help (like chained IT workers, spouses whose degrees are wasted etc.)
7. I see a lot of nice quotes in some of the texts. Maybe it is nice to collect some of the nice quotes and publish them somewhere.
Maybe its best to use our contacts in our home countries to get some stories printed in leading newspapers/publications. In this flat world, the stories would float around and reach a wider audience.
my few cents.
regards,
-ks.
miguy
06-18 03:37 PM
thanks for your replies desi3933........is there any way one one can apply for H4 extension/stamping at the consulate based on the receipt of the H1b extension filing ?
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suresh.emails
12-11 08:04 PM
The following are various ways to express some one�s dissatisfaction/agony and draw some one else (Government/Media/Public) attention.
1. Daily Fasting : One or more people would sit for fasting from 6 AM to 6 PM. One group would pass on the fire to next group.
2. Continuous Fasting : One or more people would sit for fasting 24 hours a day. Such people should not have health issues like Blood Pressure, Gastric Trouble, Sugar, insulin deficiency, Heart relates issues. This may cuase arrest.
3. Protesting : Conduct a rally with group/mass of people with immigration ply cards and banners.
4. Wearing Black Ribbons : People would wear/put a small black ribbon on their shirt pockets (Upper left side of the chest) and attend duties. We can draw people attentions. Such ribbon should have white color immigration slogan printed on it.
5. Distributing Flyers : Distributing Flyers/Handouts to people in respective areas.
6. Banners : Display banner/show outs in the Traffic Island Medians
7. Flower Campaign : Sending Flowers to respective people, also called Gandhi giri.
8. Silent Sitting : Sitting in front of USCIS silently (no talk).
9. Silent sitting in front of Senators house: Group of people should sit (kind of protest) in front of respective state senators. We can draw maximum MEDIA attention.
10. Sweeping Roads : A group of people would sweep roads by wearing immigration slogans jackets.
11. Organize Blood Donate Drives : Interested member would donate blood (We should explain to media, why we are doing so).
12. Rally in All Major Cities : Conduct a rally in all Major cities (where we have at least 100 members) at the same time.
We still have various other ways to express our dissatisfaction, however, they are little rude and could cause more issues.
We should choose couple of ways from above to express our dissatisfaction. Members, feel free to add and delete from above list.
P.S: We need prior permission from local authorities
Looks like we have to some thing big at this Christmas season.
1. Daily Fasting : One or more people would sit for fasting from 6 AM to 6 PM. One group would pass on the fire to next group.
2. Continuous Fasting : One or more people would sit for fasting 24 hours a day. Such people should not have health issues like Blood Pressure, Gastric Trouble, Sugar, insulin deficiency, Heart relates issues. This may cuase arrest.
3. Protesting : Conduct a rally with group/mass of people with immigration ply cards and banners.
4. Wearing Black Ribbons : People would wear/put a small black ribbon on their shirt pockets (Upper left side of the chest) and attend duties. We can draw people attentions. Such ribbon should have white color immigration slogan printed on it.
5. Distributing Flyers : Distributing Flyers/Handouts to people in respective areas.
6. Banners : Display banner/show outs in the Traffic Island Medians
7. Flower Campaign : Sending Flowers to respective people, also called Gandhi giri.
8. Silent Sitting : Sitting in front of USCIS silently (no talk).
9. Silent sitting in front of Senators house: Group of people should sit (kind of protest) in front of respective state senators. We can draw maximum MEDIA attention.
10. Sweeping Roads : A group of people would sweep roads by wearing immigration slogans jackets.
11. Organize Blood Donate Drives : Interested member would donate blood (We should explain to media, why we are doing so).
12. Rally in All Major Cities : Conduct a rally in all Major cities (where we have at least 100 members) at the same time.
We still have various other ways to express our dissatisfaction, however, they are little rude and could cause more issues.
We should choose couple of ways from above to express our dissatisfaction. Members, feel free to add and delete from above list.
P.S: We need prior permission from local authorities
Looks like we have to some thing big at this Christmas season.
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villamonte6100
04-11 11:26 AM
I don't care what you feel from bottom of your heart. The very statement "why can't people like Dawood Ibrahim <implying become CM> (after all he is also indian and successful in his own profession). " makes you STUUUUUUPID.
I cant explain my disgust on this in words. Two wrongs can never make a right.
This is exactly what I'm trying to point out. As a non-Indian, what the hell this subject got to do with immigration in America and getting a green card. This is about politics in India.
I cant explain my disgust on this in words. Two wrongs can never make a right.
This is exactly what I'm trying to point out. As a non-Indian, what the hell this subject got to do with immigration in America and getting a green card. This is about politics in India.
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GCBy3000
10-10 06:12 PM
Any clarifications why India EB3 is behind mexico?
1. May be there are more Indians in 245(i) cases than mexicans.
2. May be lots of Indians have applied 245(i) cases eventhough they are not illegal. I heard that this is possible and you can use this to any future employer.
Any comments.
This question has been bugging the HECK out of me as well. I mean the only way this makes sense is if 245(i) + EB3 for India >> 245(i) for Mexico. Now from all that i have read/heard/seen, it seems like 245(i) is the major hurdle. Then how is it that EB3 India is stuck and everyone else is moving? The above equation must mean that there is a SIGNIFICANT number of 245(i) cases from India as well. Any thoughts anyone? :confused:
1. May be there are more Indians in 245(i) cases than mexicans.
2. May be lots of Indians have applied 245(i) cases eventhough they are not illegal. I heard that this is possible and you can use this to any future employer.
Any comments.
This question has been bugging the HECK out of me as well. I mean the only way this makes sense is if 245(i) + EB3 for India >> 245(i) for Mexico. Now from all that i have read/heard/seen, it seems like 245(i) is the major hurdle. Then how is it that EB3 India is stuck and everyone else is moving? The above equation must mean that there is a SIGNIFICANT number of 245(i) cases from India as well. Any thoughts anyone? :confused:
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pns27
05-13 05:49 PM
Why cant you guys understand, we have no right to demand.
Lot of people , who otherwise would have qualified for Eb2 went ahead with EB3. First of all why did you you agree to it. Because, that time, that was something easy to get instead of changing it to EB2. That was the fight under your control. Not the one you are asking for.
Someone rightly said, you need one scientist,2 qualified/experience guys and 6 eb3 guys to do actual work. A right pyramid for an organisation.
But how can you miss govt. requirement. They need more PhDs. So they are asking us to do more study, earn more higher advanced degrees because thats what they need. Not our so called BE/Btech degree. In another 4-5 years, I wont be surprised, if only guys with masters will be only allowed to apply, if they find equal number of master graduates. Who cares for ordinary graduates. EB3 min qual will be raised to Masters with 5 years experience. What will be your say then ?
So look ahead and act accordingly. Make sure you can anticpate their moves. Its not a rocket science. 6-7 years back, there wasnt much application for EB category. But looking at the last year number, I wont be suprised, if they decide to raise the criteria bar. Simple, and all backlogs will be over. The reason they are not doing this because they still need eb3/eb2. But not in quantity, you would like them to but rather what they would like to have.
As far as country uota is concerned, everyone knows China and India, over populous contry. You increase the number to a million, and that would also fall short. But then they do not want so many people from a single country, as it will have a lot of political ramification in the future.
You are making up things here; Eb1->Eb2->Eb3 is correct only from education and experience for the Job point of view but not true from Quota point of view.
�The argument that Eb1 is preferred above Eb2 and BE2 is preferred over EB3 is absurd.
The regular yearly BE quota is distributed equally among all three categories, so then why they should not follow the same distribution for the overflow numbers?
Said that all BE3 applicants who are eligible should port there PD to EB2. Simple, when you know how the system works try to adapt to it.�
We don�t know the system when we filed our CGs, we just trusted out attorneys. If we have to do this CG stuff again most of us will do it differently.
Remember one more thing, one may be EB2 can still be less qualified and less experienced then an EB3 as EB criteria is for the Job not for the person.
PNS27
PD: EB3 June 2002
Lot of people , who otherwise would have qualified for Eb2 went ahead with EB3. First of all why did you you agree to it. Because, that time, that was something easy to get instead of changing it to EB2. That was the fight under your control. Not the one you are asking for.
Someone rightly said, you need one scientist,2 qualified/experience guys and 6 eb3 guys to do actual work. A right pyramid for an organisation.
But how can you miss govt. requirement. They need more PhDs. So they are asking us to do more study, earn more higher advanced degrees because thats what they need. Not our so called BE/Btech degree. In another 4-5 years, I wont be surprised, if only guys with masters will be only allowed to apply, if they find equal number of master graduates. Who cares for ordinary graduates. EB3 min qual will be raised to Masters with 5 years experience. What will be your say then ?
So look ahead and act accordingly. Make sure you can anticpate their moves. Its not a rocket science. 6-7 years back, there wasnt much application for EB category. But looking at the last year number, I wont be suprised, if they decide to raise the criteria bar. Simple, and all backlogs will be over. The reason they are not doing this because they still need eb3/eb2. But not in quantity, you would like them to but rather what they would like to have.
As far as country uota is concerned, everyone knows China and India, over populous contry. You increase the number to a million, and that would also fall short. But then they do not want so many people from a single country, as it will have a lot of political ramification in the future.
You are making up things here; Eb1->Eb2->Eb3 is correct only from education and experience for the Job point of view but not true from Quota point of view.
�The argument that Eb1 is preferred above Eb2 and BE2 is preferred over EB3 is absurd.
The regular yearly BE quota is distributed equally among all three categories, so then why they should not follow the same distribution for the overflow numbers?
Said that all BE3 applicants who are eligible should port there PD to EB2. Simple, when you know how the system works try to adapt to it.�
We don�t know the system when we filed our CGs, we just trusted out attorneys. If we have to do this CG stuff again most of us will do it differently.
Remember one more thing, one may be EB2 can still be less qualified and less experienced then an EB3 as EB criteria is for the Job not for the person.
PNS27
PD: EB3 June 2002
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nonimmi
09-18 02:04 PM
I don't agree with you.
While we are waiting for GC,What options we have in US ? How to use our time more effectively instead of worrying too much ? This is what we were discussiing. It is indirectly related to immigration.
Take it easy Man.....Don't worry too much about the content !
Yeaaah sure.
Mr. Reddy and labor 2002 can continue this real estate investments discussion and more like - child care, 401k, spouse selection and what not!!
And when it comes to **more** private matters guys plsssssss move to private room as not all of us can take it happily.
Cheers!!
While we are waiting for GC,What options we have in US ? How to use our time more effectively instead of worrying too much ? This is what we were discussiing. It is indirectly related to immigration.
Take it easy Man.....Don't worry too much about the content !
Yeaaah sure.
Mr. Reddy and labor 2002 can continue this real estate investments discussion and more like - child care, 401k, spouse selection and what not!!
And when it comes to **more** private matters guys plsssssss move to private room as not all of us can take it happily.
Cheers!!
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go_guy123
06-30 12:19 PM
But Gandhi ji actually did something when he was humiliated , unlike MOST IV MEMBERS" who just talk.. yes right TALK
Comparing with Gandhi ji's struggle makes no sense. When discriminated, he refused to cooperate. Refused to buy "monopolistic" foreign clothes, salt.
H1-B is noway similar to that. H1B can choose not to put up with discriminating employers, rules etc and chose not to work in an economy which is exploitative.
Once H1B stop putting up these rules, employers with think we need to do something to attract foreign talent. Till then why bother to lobby for change in EB rules.
Note: I approve of free trade but in those days it was all one-sided monopolistic trade where Indian consumers had no choice but were forced to buy British goods.
Comparing with Gandhi ji's struggle makes no sense. When discriminated, he refused to cooperate. Refused to buy "monopolistic" foreign clothes, salt.
H1-B is noway similar to that. H1B can choose not to put up with discriminating employers, rules etc and chose not to work in an economy which is exploitative.
Once H1B stop putting up these rules, employers with think we need to do something to attract foreign talent. Till then why bother to lobby for change in EB rules.
Note: I approve of free trade but in those days it was all one-sided monopolistic trade where Indian consumers had no choice but were forced to buy British goods.
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immigrant2007
07-03 06:25 PM
Please start a poll and find out who is in favor of a law suit against USCIS and who is not.
I am in favor of to file a law suit against USCIS.
I am also in favour of lawsuit
I am in favor of to file a law suit against USCIS.
I am also in favour of lawsuit
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sparklinks
07-20 02:40 PM
I just call USCIS , she told me to wait until Aug 2nd week to get receipt# or to see chased checks.
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needhelp!
12-12 12:18 AM
Except for 8 & 9..what do they mean?
Every movement should have following factors to succeed.
1) strategic, honest and commited leadership
2) strategic think tanks
3) High moral and ethical ground
4) Dedicated volunteers
5) high volume support from affected masses
6) Strong communication network
7) Constant flow of required finance, its control /management and proper
usage
8) strategic organization
9) strategic intelligence
10) Simple but valid and highly effective fighting methods.
What do you think, in which area you can be fit to make our movement stronger?
Every movement should have following factors to succeed.
1) strategic, honest and commited leadership
2) strategic think tanks
3) High moral and ethical ground
4) Dedicated volunteers
5) high volume support from affected masses
6) Strong communication network
7) Constant flow of required finance, its control /management and proper
usage
8) strategic organization
9) strategic intelligence
10) Simple but valid and highly effective fighting methods.
What do you think, in which area you can be fit to make our movement stronger?
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doknek
05-10 09:26 AM
Try Tri Valley
I hope you guys didn't try Tri-Valley Univ. President indicted of visa fraud Bay Area university president indicted for student visa fraud scheme (http://www.ice.gov/news/releases/1105/110502oakland.htm)
I hope you guys didn't try Tri-Valley Univ. President indicted of visa fraud Bay Area university president indicted for student visa fraud scheme (http://www.ice.gov/news/releases/1105/110502oakland.htm)
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rangeela
02-07 11:19 AM
This is not new, I was advised the same by my attorneys. I have heard "internet rumors" of people successfully filing EB-2 for job descriptions such as senior software engineer and senior systems analyst, which are normally classified as job zone 4. However, I was advised by two different law firms that this is not possible. According to both attorneys I consulted, you must get a job zone 5 classification to file EB-2. Note that "information technology manager" is job zone 5, so if you're in a senior position and supervising people (e.g., a manager or even a team lead), you may be able to obtain this classification.
- gs
Thank you all for the responses.
I am EB-ROW and EB2 is current for me.
GoneSouth,
you said "you must get a job zone 5 classification to file EB-2. Note that "information technology manager" is job zone 5". I am not in a manager position. I am software engineer/developer.
Is there any way EB2 can be filed. What should I tell my compary lawyer? I told him my friends in other companies are able to file EB2. they are also software developers. He says "The other companies should not be able to file EB2 for software engineers but I can't say what another company's hiring history would allow and what they are willing to risk in filing a case which surpasses the minimum requirements allowed by DOL."
How do I convince him. Is there any documentation or link which I can show him which states that software developers can file EB2?
Thanks again all..
- gs
Thank you all for the responses.
I am EB-ROW and EB2 is current for me.
GoneSouth,
you said "you must get a job zone 5 classification to file EB-2. Note that "information technology manager" is job zone 5". I am not in a manager position. I am software engineer/developer.
Is there any way EB2 can be filed. What should I tell my compary lawyer? I told him my friends in other companies are able to file EB2. they are also software developers. He says "The other companies should not be able to file EB2 for software engineers but I can't say what another company's hiring history would allow and what they are willing to risk in filing a case which surpasses the minimum requirements allowed by DOL."
How do I convince him. Is there any documentation or link which I can show him which states that software developers can file EB2?
Thanks again all..
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vnandster
08-12 01:06 PM
... Per the USCIS website, they are suppose to process even the first week of Mar 2006 although the Aug VB says it is 01MAR06 ...
tooclose -
Can you post the link to the page on the USCIS site which says so?
tooclose -
Can you post the link to the page on the USCIS site which says so?
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kumarc123
06-12 01:47 PM
People I am trying to introduce the contents on a new thread
Pappu,
I appreciate your input, but IV members have been talking about numbers and numbers and numbers for last 2 years in a row.
What will the numbers reveal? I had been a regular blogger at IV, but I stopped coming up here because.
1. All talk and no Walk
2. New members come aboard, are rude and offer no pragmatic approach.
3. All these bloggers give ideas and critique each other.
4. What happened to the March1 09st rally in DC?
Why has IV not taken a pragmatic approach, don't take me wrong I respect what you have done and other approaches in the past. But IV is using same approach for a new problem, the end result-----Failure
I joined this community after july fiasco, and have kept close watch on dates, everyday members keep suggesting something or the other. I don't mind being a donor to IV or contributing little what I have, But I need to see some big movement and results.
I did all the stupid calling to congress senators
Did sending of letters to the White house
what was the result? If IV wants core members and new members to donate and be a part of something bigger than a website, then please initiate something big like a rally.
Just because their are less members to join, does not excuse a true purpose of a rally.
Some of core members of IV keep telling other members:
1. Join your local chapter
2. Be a donor,
I understand all this, but I as a visiting members and the people coming on here, want to see a true and real reason to be a part of IV and not just a website where immigrants come and breathe out their frusturations July Fiasco turned to be advantageous to a few members, but was a mistake for members like me and other members who could not file at that time.
Please prove me wrong and IV to be something more than a website, please initiate something big and real, and not just comments. I an aware of the achievements in the past, but it was past 3 years ago. For last three years immigrant's feelings have been played around too many times. Same old talks will not bring upon a change, SOMETHING BIG NEEDS TO BE DONE NOW BEFORE THE CIR BILL takes place. So people are more aware.
Show us IV core is more than words! Conduct something bigger that will attract new members and donors to this organization.
I as a professional can tell you all now--- passive movement, sending letters, long term planning with no actions will not help
People have left IV, who are so disheartened and believe this organization has lost its eedge and is all talk and no walk above all a money scam.
Prove them wrong and do something big, above all Practical
Pappu,
I appreciate your input, but IV members have been talking about numbers and numbers and numbers for last 2 years in a row.
What will the numbers reveal? I had been a regular blogger at IV, but I stopped coming up here because.
1. All talk and no Walk
2. New members come aboard, are rude and offer no pragmatic approach.
3. All these bloggers give ideas and critique each other.
4. What happened to the March1 09st rally in DC?
Why has IV not taken a pragmatic approach, don't take me wrong I respect what you have done and other approaches in the past. But IV is using same approach for a new problem, the end result-----Failure
I joined this community after july fiasco, and have kept close watch on dates, everyday members keep suggesting something or the other. I don't mind being a donor to IV or contributing little what I have, But I need to see some big movement and results.
I did all the stupid calling to congress senators
Did sending of letters to the White house
what was the result? If IV wants core members and new members to donate and be a part of something bigger than a website, then please initiate something big like a rally.
Just because their are less members to join, does not excuse a true purpose of a rally.
Some of core members of IV keep telling other members:
1. Join your local chapter
2. Be a donor,
I understand all this, but I as a visiting members and the people coming on here, want to see a true and real reason to be a part of IV and not just a website where immigrants come and breathe out their frusturations July Fiasco turned to be advantageous to a few members, but was a mistake for members like me and other members who could not file at that time.
Please prove me wrong and IV to be something more than a website, please initiate something big and real, and not just comments. I an aware of the achievements in the past, but it was past 3 years ago. For last three years immigrant's feelings have been played around too many times. Same old talks will not bring upon a change, SOMETHING BIG NEEDS TO BE DONE NOW BEFORE THE CIR BILL takes place. So people are more aware.
Show us IV core is more than words! Conduct something bigger that will attract new members and donors to this organization.
I as a professional can tell you all now--- passive movement, sending letters, long term planning with no actions will not help
People have left IV, who are so disheartened and believe this organization has lost its eedge and is all talk and no walk above all a money scam.
Prove them wrong and do something big, above all Practical
bitzbytz
06-25 08:44 AM
H1 was approved some time last year and H1B started from 10/1/2006.
saimrathi
08-27 09:13 AM
I beg to differ.. My PA DL is based on my Work Visa, hence it expires on the day my visa expires.. I tried to renew online and the system said since you are not a citizen u have to go to the DL Center for a renewal... Maybe your DL is from the time you were student or otherwise...
The best thing about PA is through online.
Visit the below link
http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/driverLicensePhotoIDCenter/renewNonCommercials.shtml
and click on renew online. Here you have to enter your details and pay through credit card. You will receive the confirmation letter (DL60A/DL60R) through regular mail with in 10 days. Take the letter and go to the DMV for photograph.
The photograph folks don't ask any immigration documents, just the SSN original card. That's it.
The best thing about PA is through online.
Visit the below link
http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/driverLicensePhotoIDCenter/renewNonCommercials.shtml
and click on renew online. Here you have to enter your details and pay through credit card. You will receive the confirmation letter (DL60A/DL60R) through regular mail with in 10 days. Take the letter and go to the DMV for photograph.
The photograph folks don't ask any immigration documents, just the SSN original card. That's it.